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Banning TikTok wouldn’t be a dangerous precedent. Authoritarian countries do that all the time. My concern is with forced sales. How do we ensure that the poli

Banning TikTok wouldn’t be a dangerous precedent. Authoritarian countries do that all the time. My concern is with forced sales. How do we ensure that the politicians’ incentives matches with ours and that they aren’t being paid behind our backs by the companies that are now able to acquire TikTok at a discount? Congress is notorious for (alleged) insider trading, they could very well profit from such a sale. Relevant: The American Trap by Frederic Pierucci

Clubber 3y ago
>Banning TikTok wouldn’t be a dangerous precedent. Authoritarian countries do that all the time. Wanting to live in a non-authoritarian country, I think you missed the point you just made, or were just being sarcastic and it went over my head. There's a theory that this push for a Tik-Tok ban is being funded by Meta, who can't buy it like it bought other competition like Instagram and WhatsApp. Monopolies are bad, mm kay.
- anon373839 3y ago
  Agree on the citation to authoritarian regimes. Otherwise, though, I have no qualms about banning what may very well be a mass psyops machine run by a hostile foreign government.
  - Clubber 3y ago
    >very well be a mass psyops machine run by a hostile foreign government. I think that fits word-for-word for domestic companies minus the foreign part.
    - anon373839 3y ago
      I think so, too. But that’s no reason to give TikTok a pass.
      - Clubber 3y ago
        I agree. I think the government needs to block a whole lot of M&A than they do. I wonder if the ultimate plan is to break TikTok away from the CCP and allow it to be bought domestically. I recall Trump trying to do that with Larry Ellison of all people, but I think he ran into roadblocks. https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/tech/oracle-tiktok-us-china-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/tech/oracle-tiktok-us-china-i...
CommanderData 3y ago
I'm pretty sure the Israel-Palestine genocide has played a part in speeding up partial transfer to the US. The support among teenagers who have witness the destruction and terrorism caused by Israel has cause organic support for Palestine in both the US and Europe. Exactly against the wishes of US/Israel gov. US based companies already have a tight grip on what's allowed to be shared on social media - and there's frequent documented cases of censorship in the name of anti-Semitism etc. The Israeli govenment has a degree of control already through their cyber warfare arm to flag material but it's a far cry from modifying the algorithm at will and outright account bans.

Clubber 3y ago

>Banning TikTok wouldn’t be a dangerous precedent. Authoritarian countries do that all the time. Wanting to live in a non-authoritarian country, I think you missed the point you just made, or were just being sarcastic and it went over my head. There's a theory that this push for a Tik-Tok ban is being funded by Meta, who can't buy it like it bought other competition like Instagram and WhatsApp. Monopolies are bad, mm kay.

anon373839 3y ago
Agree on the citation to authoritarian regimes. Otherwise, though, I have no qualms about banning what may very well be a mass psyops machine run by a hostile foreign government.
- Clubber 3y ago
  >very well be a mass psyops machine run by a hostile foreign government. I think that fits word-for-word for domestic companies minus the foreign part.
  - anon373839 3y ago
    I think so, too. But that’s no reason to give TikTok a pass.
    - Clubber 3y ago
      I agree. I think the government needs to block a whole lot of M&A than they do. I wonder if the ultimate plan is to break TikTok away from the CCP and allow it to be bought domestically. I recall Trump trying to do that with Larry Ellison of all people, but I think he ran into roadblocks. https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/tech/oracle-tiktok-us-china-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/tech/oracle-tiktok-us-china-i...

CommanderData 3y ago

I'm pretty sure the Israel-Palestine genocide has played a part in speeding up partial transfer to the US. The support among teenagers who have witness the destruction and terrorism caused by Israel has cause organic support for Palestine in both the US and Europe. Exactly against the wishes of US/Israel gov. US based companies already have a tight grip on what's allowed to be shared on social media - and there's frequent documented cases of censorship in the name of anti-Semitism etc. The Israeli govenment has a degree of control already through their cyber warfare arm to flag material but it's a far cry from modifying the algorithm at will and outright account bans.