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Apps in the App store have to use a prompt to get confirmation that they are able to view and access certain things, like your photo library. Breaking down the

Apps in the App store have to use a prompt to get confirmation that they are able to view and access certain things, like your photo library. Breaking down the walled garden of the App Store would be moving in the direction of a world where the prompts/ requests for access that prevent (or reduce the odds of) data being taken/stolen is higher. If you can download a non-compliant app from any random website you might visit, you can bet your ass the 65+ population is going to end up downloading a bunch of malicious apps.

jamil7 3y ago
The prompt you're talking about is a part of the operating system's security and privacy model, this has nothing to do with the App Store or the DMA. The DMA is not requiring this to be changed.
- burnerthrow008 3y ago
  Sure, and if a developer finds a way to bypass that security restriction, Apple no longer has the ability to ban that developer. > The DMA is not requiring this to be changed. Not according to the DMA maximalists on this thread, who believe that you should be able to install any software that does anything it wants.
  - jamil7 3y ago
    They can revoke that developers' certificates and patch whatever vulnerability allowed a developer to bypass that restriction.
    - burnerthrow008 3y ago
      > They can revoke that developers' certificates Well, no, they can’t. That’s the whole point of the DMA. > and patch whatever vulnerability allowed a developer to bypass that restriction. Sure, close the door after the cow has left barn. In the rest of the civilized world, developers will not do something so blatant in the first place because they know it will result in an account ban.
      - jamil7 3y ago
        > Well, no, they can’t. That’s the whole point of the DMA. Yes, they can. And no that’s not the whole point of the DMA. You still need to have a valid Apple developer account and certificates managed through Apple.
  - ambichook 3y ago
    i mean... the app is still going to have to ask the OS for permission to use those features, which will then pass the question on to the user like it always has won't it?
- Aloisius 3y ago
  Eh. A rather large amount of Android malware convinces people to approve access to photos/contacts/files/etc. by pretending to have functionality they don't. Apple rejects apps that ask for permission they don't need and apps that pretend to be what they aren't from the App Store. There's a reason why malware is far more prevalent on Android than iPhone.
  - jamil7 3y ago
    There’s far less malware on the mac than Android though, which works the same way.
    - Aloisius 3y ago
      Android has 30x more users than than mac. It's a significantly more attractive target for criminals. That said, malware is far more common on macs than it is iPhones, despite having a fraction of the users - and nearly all of it comes from people downloading apps from websites.

jamil7 3y ago

The prompt you're talking about is a part of the operating system's security and privacy model, this has nothing to do with the App Store or the DMA. The DMA is not requiring this to be changed.

burnerthrow008 3y ago
Sure, and if a developer finds a way to bypass that security restriction, Apple no longer has the ability to ban that developer. > The DMA is not requiring this to be changed. Not according to the DMA maximalists on this thread, who believe that you should be able to install any software that does anything it wants.
- jamil7 3y ago
  They can revoke that developers' certificates and patch whatever vulnerability allowed a developer to bypass that restriction.
  - burnerthrow008 3y ago
    > They can revoke that developers' certificates Well, no, they can’t. That’s the whole point of the DMA. > and patch whatever vulnerability allowed a developer to bypass that restriction. Sure, close the door after the cow has left barn. In the rest of the civilized world, developers will not do something so blatant in the first place because they know it will result in an account ban.
    - jamil7 3y ago
      > Well, no, they can’t. That’s the whole point of the DMA. Yes, they can. And no that’s not the whole point of the DMA. You still need to have a valid Apple developer account and certificates managed through Apple.
- ambichook 3y ago
  i mean... the app is still going to have to ask the OS for permission to use those features, which will then pass the question on to the user like it always has won't it?
Aloisius 3y ago
Eh. A rather large amount of Android malware convinces people to approve access to photos/contacts/files/etc. by pretending to have functionality they don't. Apple rejects apps that ask for permission they don't need and apps that pretend to be what they aren't from the App Store. There's a reason why malware is far more prevalent on Android than iPhone.
- jamil7 3y ago
  There’s far less malware on the mac than Android though, which works the same way.
  - Aloisius 3y ago
    Android has 30x more users than than mac. It's a significantly more attractive target for criminals. That said, malware is far more common on macs than it is iPhones, despite having a fraction of the users - and nearly all of it comes from people downloading apps from websites.