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How is this any different than the industrial revolution ushering in a new age, or for that matter any technology that creates huge efficiencies in labor? The t

by mym1990 3y ago

How is this any different than the industrial revolution ushering in a new age, or for that matter any technology that creates huge efficiencies in labor? The truth is that the future is still very uncertain, and while the easiest thing to do is yell "they took er jerbs" from the top of your lungs, maybe think about how to effectively move forward into the future. There is a book called "Who Moved My Cheese?" and I wouldn't say its an amazing book, but the concept that not everything lasts forever, in relation to job security, is the takeaway.

pizza234 3y ago
> How is this any different than the industrial revolution ushering in a new age, or for that matter any technology that creates huge efficiencies in labor? Indeed it isn't. It's just that at each technological breakthrough, a number of (vocal) people thinks that it's a new type of revolution, ignoring those of the previous centuries /shrug.
jprete 3y ago
The whole point of AGI is to be able to do everything a human can do, so this argument doesn't apply in the same way it did for mechanical automation.
- mym1990 3y ago
  You seem to be really dumbing down AGI, considering AGI will likely do everything a human can do, as well as many things a human cannot do, and all of those things will be done vastly faster and better.
  - jprete 3y ago
    Your statement augments my point. All human beings should be concerned about their place in a system that doesn't need them, to the extent it's constructive to think about.
- zeroonetwothree 3y ago
  Many jobs require a corporeal body so at least we have that.
xcv123 3y ago
> the easiest thing to do is yell "they took er jerbs If the goal with AGI is to literally take all of our jobs (all jobs in all sectors) then what are you suggesting we can do instead?
- mym1990 3y ago
  The "goal" of AGI seems to be a pretty subjective thing, doesn't it? Idealistically, I could believe that the goal of AGI is to help humans build the future faster, and expand our footprint beyond what we currently believe is possible. Your pessimistic view of AGI is definitely valid, but it doesn't make it anything more than opinion, just like my view.
  - xcv123 3y ago
    AGI is being developed by companies which have billions to fund it, such as Google, Meta, and Microsoft. Their goals are not subjective. These are ruthless for-profit entities that exist to increase shareholder returns.

pizza234 3y ago

> How is this any different than the industrial revolution ushering in a new age, or for that matter any technology that creates huge efficiencies in labor? Indeed it isn't. It's just that at each technological breakthrough, a number of (vocal) people thinks that it's a new type of revolution, ignoring those of the previous centuries /shrug.

jprete 3y ago

The whole point of AGI is to be able to do everything a human can do, so this argument doesn't apply in the same way it did for mechanical automation.

mym1990 3y ago
You seem to be really dumbing down AGI, considering AGI will likely do everything a human can do, as well as many things a human cannot do, and all of those things will be done vastly faster and better.
- jprete 3y ago
  Your statement augments my point. All human beings should be concerned about their place in a system that doesn't need them, to the extent it's constructive to think about.
zeroonetwothree 3y ago
Many jobs require a corporeal body so at least we have that.

xcv123 3y ago

> the easiest thing to do is yell "they took er jerbs If the goal with AGI is to literally take all of our jobs (all jobs in all sectors) then what are you suggesting we can do instead?

mym1990 3y ago
The "goal" of AGI seems to be a pretty subjective thing, doesn't it? Idealistically, I could believe that the goal of AGI is to help humans build the future faster, and expand our footprint beyond what we currently believe is possible. Your pessimistic view of AGI is definitely valid, but it doesn't make it anything more than opinion, just like my view.
- xcv123 3y ago
  AGI is being developed by companies which have billions to fund it, such as Google, Meta, and Microsoft. Their goals are not subjective. These are ruthless for-profit entities that exist to increase shareholder returns.