My leading comment - "How do I get to Dublin?" "Well I wouldn't start here" All of the alternatives you (and I) mention - Carbon, Cppfront, Circle, aren't rea

My leading comment - "How do I get to Dublin?" "Well I wouldn't start here" All of the alternatives you (and I) mention - Carbon, Cppfront, Circle, aren't really fragmentation. They're all experiments at the moment, and all useful in testing out ideas in various different independent directions. The only comment I'll make about Rust, is that it's going to do a C++, and inspire another generation of languages (e.g. Hylo) that will takes lessons from it and improve - perhaps a nicer syntax, or better type inference and generics, or more formal proofs baked into the language. It's not an end-point. Can C++ be truly safe? I don't know, to me it seems totally at odds with where the language started, choices made and baked into the language, and where the very broad community and committee currently are.