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What’s the key to enter the euro symbol? That means you can’t use it in a text editor? There is no perfect solution, but I’d rather open a text file in a decen

What’s the key to enter the euro symbol? That means you can’t use it in a text editor? There is no perfect solution, but I’d rather open a text file in a decent editor than having to deal with the escaping hell that is CSV. They could have chosen the pipe character “|” at least, but the comma is the thousand separator in many languages (number formatting is kind of important for tabular data, if you ask me) and also, you know, general prose.

MaBu 3y ago
>What’s the key to enter the euro symbol? That means you can’t use it in a text editor? Alt gr+E? Like it's shown on the keyboard.
- tambourine_man 3y ago
  Not on a US keyboard layout. The point is that we insert characters that aren’t written on the keyboard keys with some regularity, like ©, ®, ™, etc
  - couchand 3y ago
    Well some of us do. There's this interesting effect where many people perceive the limitations on their current tools to be equivalent to limitations on their abstract abilities. If they don't know how to do it, it's impossible.
    - shawnz 3y ago
      I think that's exactly the point that the parent poster is trying to make by example? Just because we don't have good tooling today for using ASCII delimiter characters, doesn't mean it's impossible -- just like typing the euro symbol on an american keyboard
      - couchand 3y ago
        Oh yes certainly. And I think that when you're deep into creation it can be really really hard to remember that experience, and so recently I'm trying to find ways to help pull back the curtain for folks.
      - littlestymaar 3y ago
        It doesn't mean it's impossible, but it's definitely cumbersome. Any non English people who has had to type in their native language from an american keyboard can tell you.
- usr1106 3y ago
  Except that not all keyboards have an AltGr key. European ones tend to have one. US keyboards don't. Not sure about British. Are they different from US?
littlestymaar 3y ago
> What’s the key to enter the euro symbol? There's one on French keyboards actually! And it was there even before we got euro coins in our hands (I know this because I'm still using my first (mechanical) keyboard that I got with my first own PC in 2001: and there is a “€” symbol on it)
- wiml 3y ago
  There's also the generic currency symbol, ¤, which I think is on some keyboard layouts pre-Euro.
  - andyferris 3y ago
    Ooh is that what that is? TIL
  - mongol 3y ago
    That is an underappreciated gem. It should find more use!
- BlueTemplar 3y ago
  Mandatory plug of new Azerty : https://norme-azerty.fr/en/ https://norme-azerty.fr/en/

MaBu 3y ago

>What’s the key to enter the euro symbol? That means you can’t use it in a text editor? Alt gr+E? Like it's shown on the keyboard.

tambourine_man 3y ago
Not on a US keyboard layout. The point is that we insert characters that aren’t written on the keyboard keys with some regularity, like ©, ®, ™, etc
- couchand 3y ago
  Well some of us do. There's this interesting effect where many people perceive the limitations on their current tools to be equivalent to limitations on their abstract abilities. If they don't know how to do it, it's impossible.
  - shawnz 3y ago
    I think that's exactly the point that the parent poster is trying to make by example? Just because we don't have good tooling today for using ASCII delimiter characters, doesn't mean it's impossible -- just like typing the euro symbol on an american keyboard
    - couchand 3y ago
      Oh yes certainly. And I think that when you're deep into creation it can be really really hard to remember that experience, and so recently I'm trying to find ways to help pull back the curtain for folks.
    - littlestymaar 3y ago
      It doesn't mean it's impossible, but it's definitely cumbersome. Any non English people who has had to type in their native language from an american keyboard can tell you.
usr1106 3y ago
Except that not all keyboards have an AltGr key. European ones tend to have one. US keyboards don't. Not sure about British. Are they different from US?

littlestymaar 3y ago

> What’s the key to enter the euro symbol? There's one on French keyboards actually! And it was there even before we got euro coins in our hands (I know this because I'm still using my first (mechanical) keyboard that I got with my first own PC in 2001: and there is a “€” symbol on it)

wiml 3y ago
There's also the generic currency symbol, ¤, which I think is on some keyboard layouts pre-Euro.
- andyferris 3y ago
  Ooh is that what that is? TIL
- mongol 3y ago
  That is an underappreciated gem. It should find more use!
BlueTemplar 3y ago
Mandatory plug of new Azerty : https://norme-azerty.fr/en/ https://norme-azerty.fr/en/