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The cost of switching device ecosystems can be comparable to the cost of renting an apartment in richer countries, and exceeding the monthly income in poorer co

The cost of switching device ecosystems can be comparable to the cost of renting an apartment in richer countries, and exceeding the monthly income in poorer countries. Yet we clearly recognize that renters need protections and can't reasonably be told to just move apartments over anything. So why shouldn't we hold phone ecosystems to the same standards? Especially when both do their best to make migration to the other difficult.

sanitycheck 3y ago
I... Don't really see what your numbers could look like, here. Buying a cheap Android phone is $200-300 and selling an iPhone will more than pay for that. Switching from iCloud to something else for backups will actually save a little bit per month. Average London rent is equivalent to 40K USD per year, as a random "richer country" example. It's not in the same ballpark, is it?
- oarsinsync 3y ago
  > Average London rent is equivalent to 40K USD per year, as a random "richer country" example. It's not in the same ballpark, is it? Average London rent is $3333 per month per person? I’m struggling to believe that.
  - KomoD 3y ago
    Q4 2023: greater london: ~£2600/mo (~US$3200) inner london: ~£3100/mo (~US$3900) outer london: ~£2200/mo (~US$2800) https://www.rightmove.co.uk/news/rental-price-tracker https://www.rightmove.co.uk/news/rental-price-tracker
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  - sanitycheck 3y ago
    From the result of a quick web search which found this as the first result, yes: https://www.standard.co.uk/homesandproperty/renting/london-rent-new-record-high-2024-b1134936.html https://www.standard.co.uk/homesandproperty/renting/london-r... Not per person, I haven't ever been charged per person except in student accommodation and Japanese hotel rooms, not sure how we'd know what that would be.
temac 3y ago
> The cost of switching device ecosystems can be comparable to the cost of renting an apartment in richer countries I'm not sure what you are doing with your phone but you should lower your dependencies on tech gadget if switching from iPhone to Android would cost you so much. The law can't regulate primarily for people making unreasonable decisions.

sanitycheck 3y ago

I... Don't really see what your numbers could look like, here. Buying a cheap Android phone is $200-300 and selling an iPhone will more than pay for that. Switching from iCloud to something else for backups will actually save a little bit per month. Average London rent is equivalent to 40K USD per year, as a random "richer country" example. It's not in the same ballpark, is it?

oarsinsync 3y ago
> Average London rent is equivalent to 40K USD per year, as a random "richer country" example. It's not in the same ballpark, is it? Average London rent is $3333 per month per person? I’m struggling to believe that.
- KomoD 3y ago
  Q4 2023: greater london: ~£2600/mo (~US$3200) inner london: ~£3100/mo (~US$3900) outer london: ~£2200/mo (~US$2800) https://www.rightmove.co.uk/news/rental-price-tracker https://www.rightmove.co.uk/news/rental-price-tracker
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- sanitycheck 3y ago
  From the result of a quick web search which found this as the first result, yes: https://www.standard.co.uk/homesandproperty/renting/london-rent-new-record-high-2024-b1134936.html https://www.standard.co.uk/homesandproperty/renting/london-r... Not per person, I haven't ever been charged per person except in student accommodation and Japanese hotel rooms, not sure how we'd know what that would be.

temac 3y ago

> The cost of switching device ecosystems can be comparable to the cost of renting an apartment in richer countries I'm not sure what you are doing with your phone but you should lower your dependencies on tech gadget if switching from iPhone to Android would cost you so much. The law can't regulate primarily for people making unreasonable decisions.