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Modern copyright doing what it does best: Limiting creativity & productivity, typically to the benefit of deeper pockets.

sidewndr46 3y ago
At least several of those are from me. I found numerous instances of individuals taking my CC by attribution and BSD licensed work, stripping all of the identifying information & then posting it as their own work.
- master-lincoln 3y ago
  Those were most likely done with malicious intend. So did the perpetrators face any other consequence apart from having their repository closed? Does DMCA help to make this happen less often?
  - Sirizarry 3y ago
    It only stops honest people from making “mistakes”. Anyone with the desire to abuse these frankly stupid copyright laws can and will do so
- thomastjeffery 3y ago
  ~~That's literally what the BSD license is for.~~ nevermind, BSD includes attribution... As for attribution... why in the world can't we just prosecute people for fraud? Fraud has been illegal literally the whole time. There is no reason it should be resolved with copyright or contracts.
NovemberWhiskey 3y ago
Look; I'm no more of a fan of big-copyright than anyone else, but I'm still pretty sure that investment in tools that ultimately serve to let you download YouTube videos bypassing the site (etc) return fairly little in terms of either creativity or productivity to the world.
- jdiff 3y ago
  This is such a crazy comment to read from my perspective because the answer seems so painfully obvious to me: of course it encourages creativity, and of course it boosts productivity. Being able to obtain, manipulate, and reshare bits of culture like videos is a huge source of creativity. Even in the commercial creative world, being able to download a trailer, advertisement, or really any video with a particular effect and take it frame-by-frame to dissect and understand it is a powerful learning tool. And it's valuable to be able to archive works that are likely to be torn down or that need to be accessed offline. As an example of the latter, I'm currently a high school software teacher, I often download videos demonstrating this or that and share the MP4s with my students since YouTube is blocked.
  - tmaly 3y ago
    There is some gray area with fair use I have found. When I was in the university, some of my roommates were in the film department. Their was this understanding that you could use a certain number of seconds of a copyrighted video in your project. But in practice today, it is hit or miss. I have seen a TikTok stitching Harry Potter to make a parody taken down as violating copyright. While there exists other videos on TikTok doing the same thing for longer duration.
    - jdiff 3y ago
      This isn't fair use changing, it's the platforms. It's all fair use, but it's easier to take things down without question, without even receiving an actual DMCA takedown notice. Music going on in the background for a 15 second video does not replace or in any way negatively affect the market value of music used. And yet, my fiancee has scrolled through her TikTok bookmarks to show me how long she can go without running into a video that isn't silent with a copyright notice banner along the bottom. It's not about fair use or even making sense, it's about the ego and what they can get away with.
- axus 3y ago
  All kinds of things get censored, downloading YouTube videos helps counteract that.
alephnerd 3y ago
A number of GitHub repos are just lists of torrent sites and download links. For example, this - https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/105156 https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/105156 Edit: Turns out the repo got taken down

sidewndr46 3y ago

At least several of those are from me. I found numerous instances of individuals taking my CC by attribution and BSD licensed work, stripping all of the identifying information & then posting it as their own work.

master-lincoln 3y ago
Those were most likely done with malicious intend. So did the perpetrators face any other consequence apart from having their repository closed? Does DMCA help to make this happen less often?
- Sirizarry 3y ago
  It only stops honest people from making “mistakes”. Anyone with the desire to abuse these frankly stupid copyright laws can and will do so
thomastjeffery 3y ago
~~That's literally what the BSD license is for.~~ nevermind, BSD includes attribution... As for attribution... why in the world can't we just prosecute people for fraud? Fraud has been illegal literally the whole time. There is no reason it should be resolved with copyright or contracts.

NovemberWhiskey 3y ago

Look; I'm no more of a fan of big-copyright than anyone else, but I'm still pretty sure that investment in tools that ultimately serve to let you download YouTube videos bypassing the site (etc) return fairly little in terms of either creativity or productivity to the world.

jdiff 3y ago
This is such a crazy comment to read from my perspective because the answer seems so painfully obvious to me: of course it encourages creativity, and of course it boosts productivity. Being able to obtain, manipulate, and reshare bits of culture like videos is a huge source of creativity. Even in the commercial creative world, being able to download a trailer, advertisement, or really any video with a particular effect and take it frame-by-frame to dissect and understand it is a powerful learning tool. And it's valuable to be able to archive works that are likely to be torn down or that need to be accessed offline. As an example of the latter, I'm currently a high school software teacher, I often download videos demonstrating this or that and share the MP4s with my students since YouTube is blocked.
- tmaly 3y ago
  There is some gray area with fair use I have found. When I was in the university, some of my roommates were in the film department. Their was this understanding that you could use a certain number of seconds of a copyrighted video in your project. But in practice today, it is hit or miss. I have seen a TikTok stitching Harry Potter to make a parody taken down as violating copyright. While there exists other videos on TikTok doing the same thing for longer duration.
  - jdiff 3y ago
    This isn't fair use changing, it's the platforms. It's all fair use, but it's easier to take things down without question, without even receiving an actual DMCA takedown notice. Music going on in the background for a 15 second video does not replace or in any way negatively affect the market value of music used. And yet, my fiancee has scrolled through her TikTok bookmarks to show me how long she can go without running into a video that isn't silent with a copyright notice banner along the bottom. It's not about fair use or even making sense, it's about the ego and what they can get away with.
axus 3y ago
All kinds of things get censored, downloading YouTube videos helps counteract that.

alephnerd 3y ago

A number of GitHub repos are just lists of torrent sites and download links. For example, this - https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/105156 https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/105156 Edit: Turns out the repo got taken down