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That's the thing that would prevent me from buying a Vision Pro down the line. It's going to be an iOS-like walled garden experience. If it could run arbitrary

That's the thing that would prevent me from buying a Vision Pro down the line. It's going to be an iOS-like walled garden experience. If it could run arbitrary macOS apps on device, it would be infinitely more useful (but probably cannibalize the MacBook market and why would Apple ever roll out a new product line that doesn't force developers to pay them 30%?)

CharlesW 3y ago
> It's going to be an iOS-like walled garden experience. You say "it's going to be" as if this hasn't been the Apple device business model from the start.
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
  I mean... it hasn't been their model from the start; the Apple II was wildly successful in part because it was so open, and Macs never had a walled garden (though the situation there does seem to have gotten somewhat worse over time).
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  - __d 3y ago
    When the Mac was introduced, there were two loud groups of people: Those complaining bitterly that Apple had ruined the product by eliminating expansion cards, and holding the case shut with a special screw that needed an "only available from Apple" screwdriver. And those who gladly bought the first computer that didn't need users to open up the case and mess around with expansion cards and dip switches and so on. And so it goes.
    - toyg 3y ago
      Keeping that case shut almost bankrupted them in the long run, though. They survived only thanks to money from the open-case people.
throwitaway1123 3y ago
> It's going to be an iOS-like walled garden experience. It might be even worse. Apparently you can't even add a web app to your home screen on the Vision Pro. Vision Pro users are paying for a native app that loads youtube.com in a webview: https://christianselig.com/2024/02/introducing-juno/ https://christianselig.com/2024/02/introducing-juno/

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That's the thing that would prevent me from buying a Vision Pro down the line. It's going to be an iOS-like walled garden experience. If it could run arbitrary

by robmccoll 3y ago

CharlesW 3y ago
> It's going to be an iOS-like walled garden experience. You say "it's going to be" as if this hasn't been the Apple device business model from the start.
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
  I mean... it hasn't been their model from the start; the Apple II was wildly successful in part because it was so open, and Macs never had a walled garden (though the situation there does seem to have gotten somewhat worse over time).
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  - __d 3y ago
    When the Mac was introduced, there were two loud groups of people: Those complaining bitterly that Apple had ruined the product by eliminating expansion cards, and holding the case shut with a special screw that needed an "only available from Apple" screwdriver. And those who gladly bought the first computer that didn't need users to open up the case and mess around with expansion cards and dip switches and so on. And so it goes.
    - toyg 3y ago
      Keeping that case shut almost bankrupted them in the long run, though. They survived only thanks to money from the open-case people.
throwitaway1123 3y ago
> It's going to be an iOS-like walled garden experience. It might be even worse. Apparently you can't even add a web app to your home screen on the Vision Pro. Vision Pro users are paying for a native app that loads youtube.com in a webview: https://christianselig.com/2024/02/introducing-juno/ https://christianselig.com/2024/02/introducing-juno/