I think both could count as quines. A quine is some source code which when executed in an environment produces the same source code. It does not need to produce

I think both could count as quines. A quine is some source code which when executed in an environment produces the same source code. It does not need to produce the entire environment. Depending on whether you see the LLM itself as source code or as an environment to execute a prompt in, you’ll end up with different requirements for an “LLM quine”.