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Jon Stewart has a crusade against MSM for their role in the US-Iraq War. Is he dogwhistling to the far right when he uses the term?

krapp 3y ago
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- arrowsmith 3y ago
  Please provide evidence that the term "mainstream media" has its origins in far right politics.
  - krapp 3y ago
    No one has claimed that the term "mainstream media" has its origins in far right politics. The claim made upthread is that the term "mainstream media" is a dogwhistle term often employed by the right wing. I will not be providing evidence of that, as ample enough evidence for that can be found easily with a simple internet search.
    - arrowsmith 3y ago
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      - dang 3y ago
        Please make your substantive points without name-calling or swipes (e.g. "absurd and deranged"). This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
      - krapp 3y ago
        >First of all: what exactly do you think the term "dogwhistle" means? Are you suggesting that when RWers say "mainstream media", they really mean something else? To what are they referring? No. In fact, I explicitly said the opposite in my comment. Although the term was popularized by the right wing in reference to their belief in a vast leftist conspiracy controlling all forms of media (the thesis under which Fox News was born and the premise by which it claims to be the only valid news source for the right), obviously not every instance of every right winger using the term uses it within that context. However the context does exist and is often employed in right-wing speech. But given your tone, the fact that you obviously didn't bother to read my comment in good faith, and your personal insults towards me, I won't be engaging with you or your comment any further.
falsandtru 3y ago
Knowledge alone is enough to say thank you. There would be no need to be so careful in saying a simple thank you.
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- falsandtru 3y ago
  It wasn't. The downvote told me that here is the place to be careful about saying thank you. Well, those who downvote against thank you will downvote anything.

krapp 3y ago

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arrowsmith 3y ago
Please provide evidence that the term "mainstream media" has its origins in far right politics.
- krapp 3y ago
  No one has claimed that the term "mainstream media" has its origins in far right politics. The claim made upthread is that the term "mainstream media" is a dogwhistle term often employed by the right wing. I will not be providing evidence of that, as ample enough evidence for that can be found easily with a simple internet search.
  - arrowsmith 3y ago
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    - dang 3y ago
      Please make your substantive points without name-calling or swipes (e.g. "absurd and deranged"). This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
    - krapp 3y ago
      >First of all: what exactly do you think the term "dogwhistle" means? Are you suggesting that when RWers say "mainstream media", they really mean something else? To what are they referring? No. In fact, I explicitly said the opposite in my comment. Although the term was popularized by the right wing in reference to their belief in a vast leftist conspiracy controlling all forms of media (the thesis under which Fox News was born and the premise by which it claims to be the only valid news source for the right), obviously not every instance of every right winger using the term uses it within that context. However the context does exist and is often employed in right-wing speech. But given your tone, the fact that you obviously didn't bother to read my comment in good faith, and your personal insults towards me, I won't be engaging with you or your comment any further.

falsandtru 3y ago

Knowledge alone is enough to say thank you. There would be no need to be so careful in saying a simple thank you.

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falsandtru 3y ago
It wasn't. The downvote told me that here is the place to be careful about saying thank you. Well, those who downvote against thank you will downvote anything.