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Jail time for open source AI models

28 points by zoobab 3y ago

mnky9800n 3y ago
Regulating away the competition is one way to win the market.
novaRom 3y ago
https://archive.is/raAce https://archive.is/raAce
bilekas 3y ago
> Congress should make it illegal, the report recommends, to train AI models using more than a certain level of computing power. This is the most lazy 'research' I've seen so far to bring answers to regulation. > It was written by Gladstone AI, a four-person company. Now that makes sense. But seriously, how it the Government supposed to regulate how much computing power you use, its a ridiculous idea. > The recommendation to outlaw the open-sourcing of advanced AI model weights, they expect, will not be popular. “Open source is generally a wonderful phenomenon and overall massively positive for the world,” Honestly the proposed solutions sound like the first brown bag session of ideas in the lunch room. If I was the government who commissioned this, I would want my money back.
- jamesdwilson 3y ago
  licensure
  - bilekas 3y ago
    Hmm, well intentioned but not a valid solution of course to any global technology, given the level of lobbying that the AI front-runners already do.. I don't see that inspiring people to even try in the US. Probably moving to other markets to get ahead without any interference from the US Fed. (They actually correctly do touch on these topics in the article)
    - jamesdwilson 3y ago
      To be clear, I am not advocating it, I just expect that as a resolution.
- guiltygods 3y ago
  > But seriously, how it the Government supposed to regulate how much computing power you use, its a ridiculous idea. Same way we saw runaway power consumption from Bitcoin miners. Every gold rush brings with it pressure on resources and both direct and indirect impact on others.
yogorenapan 3y ago
> federal contract worth $250,000, according to public records. It was written by Gladstone AI, a four-person company that runs technical briefings on AI for government employees $250000 feels like way too little to get the incentives right. A tiny fraction of what $bigtech can pay them to draft up a report that specifically benefits them. Also, I wonder how these companies are chosen by the government.
gyre 3y ago
Reminder that the US government has a public RfC on widely available model weights closing at the end of the month. If you don't want unserious ideas like these dominating the conversation please remember to provide your input: https://www.regulations.gov/document/NTIA-2023-0009-0001 https://www.regulations.gov/document/NTIA-2023-0009-0001
- zingelshuher 3y ago
  We've seen how it (didn't) with net neutrality. No reasons to think it'll work this time. Especially when current administration is looking in any way to shift attention from migrants packing in US. They will 'show strength and responsibility' on something else, like leading role in AI regulations.
Grimblewald 3y ago
The only extinction level threat I see with AI is corpo rats being the only ones with a say in how models are trained, how they are to function, and how they are to be used.
willyg123 3y ago
Replaced "AI" with "WMDs" and it reads like the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate that was the precursor to invading Iraq

28 points by zoobab 3y ago

mnky9800n 3y ago

Regulating away the competition is one way to win the market.

novaRom 3y ago

https://archive.is/raAce https://archive.is/raAce

bilekas 3y ago

> Congress should make it illegal, the report recommends, to train AI models using more than a certain level of computing power. This is the most lazy 'research' I've seen so far to bring answers to regulation. > It was written by Gladstone AI, a four-person company. Now that makes sense. But seriously, how it the Government supposed to regulate how much computing power you use, its a ridiculous idea. > The recommendation to outlaw the open-sourcing of advanced AI model weights, they expect, will not be popular. “Open source is generally a wonderful phenomenon and overall massively positive for the world,” Honestly the proposed solutions sound like the first brown bag session of ideas in the lunch room. If I was the government who commissioned this, I would want my money back.

jamesdwilson 3y ago
licensure
- bilekas 3y ago
  Hmm, well intentioned but not a valid solution of course to any global technology, given the level of lobbying that the AI front-runners already do.. I don't see that inspiring people to even try in the US. Probably moving to other markets to get ahead without any interference from the US Fed. (They actually correctly do touch on these topics in the article)
  - jamesdwilson 3y ago
    To be clear, I am not advocating it, I just expect that as a resolution.
guiltygods 3y ago
> But seriously, how it the Government supposed to regulate how much computing power you use, its a ridiculous idea. Same way we saw runaway power consumption from Bitcoin miners. Every gold rush brings with it pressure on resources and both direct and indirect impact on others.

yogorenapan 3y ago

> federal contract worth $250,000, according to public records. It was written by Gladstone AI, a four-person company that runs technical briefings on AI for government employees $250000 feels like way too little to get the incentives right. A tiny fraction of what $bigtech can pay them to draft up a report that specifically benefits them. Also, I wonder how these companies are chosen by the government.

gyre 3y ago

Reminder that the US government has a public RfC on widely available model weights closing at the end of the month. If you don't want unserious ideas like these dominating the conversation please remember to provide your input: https://www.regulations.gov/document/NTIA-2023-0009-0001 https://www.regulations.gov/document/NTIA-2023-0009-0001

zingelshuher 3y ago
We've seen how it (didn't) with net neutrality. No reasons to think it'll work this time. Especially when current administration is looking in any way to shift attention from migrants packing in US. They will 'show strength and responsibility' on something else, like leading role in AI regulations.

Grimblewald 3y ago

The only extinction level threat I see with AI is corpo rats being the only ones with a say in how models are trained, how they are to function, and how they are to be used.

willyg123 3y ago

Replaced "AI" with "WMDs" and it reads like the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate that was the precursor to invading Iraq