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And since Teams' launch the competitors have also gone full trash, so it all works out for MS. Maybe Hey/Basecamp's new idea ends up being something, but for no

by EraYaN 3y ago

And since Teams' launch the competitors have also gone full trash, so it all works out for MS. Maybe Hey/Basecamp's new idea ends up being something, but for now it's all kinda clunky Electron apps.

piva00 3y ago
Slack's experience is far, far away from perfect and it manages, at the same time, to be far, far better than whatever Teams offers. Teams is an absolute heap of burning shit, the whole experience is so terrible that what impresses me the most is that it's a sellable product. It's a prime example of how having a good product is not necessary for sales when your sales strategy is a well-oiled machine with deep penetration in the enterprise market.
- chucke1992 3y ago
  Teams provided extremely good video conferences which was crucial in COVID world and was something that allowed Zoom to go to the moon. Slack was behind in that regard and even now their video offerings are not good or convenient to use at all.
  - rstuart4133 3y ago
    > Teams provided extremely good video conferences which was crucial in COVID Company policies forced us to use Teams during COVID. "Absolute heap of burning shit" would seem like a clam, reasoned rational response if the company policy wasn't to force us to use WebEx before that. The problem isn't that those words are wrong, but they to be reserved for the most egregious case. And sadly Teams isn't it. WebEx was (remains?) far worse than Teams. It's exactly what you would expect if a company decided to spend no more on development and let the head of the dev team go (he went onto found Zoom), and recoup the money spent by doing a big marketing push. Teams did at least get it's bugs fixed, the issue was more that they created so many new bugs on the way. The stench from WebEx never changed. It was always the same "absolute heap of burning shit".

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And since Teams' launch the competitors have also gone full trash, so it all works out for MS. Maybe Hey/Basecamp's new idea ends up being something, but for no

by EraYaN 3y ago

And since Teams' launch the competitors have also gone full trash, so it all works out for MS. Maybe Hey/Basecamp's new idea ends up being something, but for now it's all kinda clunky Electron apps.

piva00 3y ago
Slack's experience is far, far away from perfect and it manages, at the same time, to be far, far better than whatever Teams offers. Teams is an absolute heap of burning shit, the whole experience is so terrible that what impresses me the most is that it's a sellable product. It's a prime example of how having a good product is not necessary for sales when your sales strategy is a well-oiled machine with deep penetration in the enterprise market.
- chucke1992 3y ago
  Teams provided extremely good video conferences which was crucial in COVID world and was something that allowed Zoom to go to the moon. Slack was behind in that regard and even now their video offerings are not good or convenient to use at all.
  - rstuart4133 3y ago
    > Teams provided extremely good video conferences which was crucial in COVID Company policies forced us to use Teams during COVID. "Absolute heap of burning shit" would seem like a clam, reasoned rational response if the company policy wasn't to force us to use WebEx before that. The problem isn't that those words are wrong, but they to be reserved for the most egregious case. And sadly Teams isn't it. WebEx was (remains?) far worse than Teams. It's exactly what you would expect if a company decided to spend no more on development and let the head of the dev team go (he went onto found Zoom), and recoup the money spent by doing a big marketing push. Teams did at least get it's bugs fixed, the issue was more that they created so many new bugs on the way. The stench from WebEx never changed. It was always the same "absolute heap of burning shit".