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Isn’t adobe animate just flash ?

lukan 3y ago
No, since flash is no longer around. Meaning you can still create all the animations and games, but then you will have to try to port it to js and canvas (via easeljs). And that did not work very nicely last time I tried it.
- eloeffler 3y ago
  There is also ruffle which seems to be doing a very good job at reviving Flash animations. The Internet Archive is using it to preserve the profound cultural heritage of early millenial flash animations. https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/19/21578616/internet-archive-preservation-flash-animations-games-adobe https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/19/21578616/internet-archiv...
- wongarsu 3y ago
  The Flash player is gone, but the authoring software called Adobe Flash was just rebranded to Adobe Animate. Back in the Flash times Flash was quite popular for Western-style 2d animation, and a lot of TV series were produced in Flash. Animate has been keeping that somewhat alive, though better alternatives have emerged.
  - chongli 3y ago
    Yeah. For all the hate the Flash player got back in the day, the authoring software (which was Macromedia Flash when I last used it) was awesome. It has really nice motion interpolation (tweening) and onion-skinning tools. For Western animation this meant you didn’t need to outsource all the in-between work.
  - lukan 3y ago
    Yeah, I was talking about Adobe Animate. It is not at all as useful as flash was, without exporting to flash. Exporting to html/canvas is a pain.
- themagician 3y ago
  When was the last time you tried it? Because I had a similar experience, and a young animator told me that they were using this in a production envrioment now and I was shocked. Adobe Animate was hot garbage after Flash died, but I recently (like two weeks ago) sat down with it for a bit and I have to say it feels quite good. It seems like there was a time period where Adobe was focused on Animate exporting to canvas and they sort of abandoned that and just turned it into a tool that would export to video. It can do both, but really Animate now is just, "Adboe Illustrator but for animation." So it's not exactly a direct replacement, it's more like Flash without ActionScript, but with some tools to kind of point you in the right direction for canvas + js.
  - lukan 3y ago
    Some months ago and my conclusion was the same, useful enough for videos, too clumsy for interactive flash, so useless for my needs.

No, since flash is no longer around. Meaning you can still create all the animations and games, but then you will have to try to port it to js and canvas (via easeljs). And that did not work very nicely last time I tried it.

eloeffler 3y ago
There is also ruffle which seems to be doing a very good job at reviving Flash animations. The Internet Archive is using it to preserve the profound cultural heritage of early millenial flash animations. https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/19/21578616/internet-archive-preservation-flash-animations-games-adobe https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/19/21578616/internet-archiv...
wongarsu 3y ago
The Flash player is gone, but the authoring software called Adobe Flash was just rebranded to Adobe Animate. Back in the Flash times Flash was quite popular for Western-style 2d animation, and a lot of TV series were produced in Flash. Animate has been keeping that somewhat alive, though better alternatives have emerged.
- chongli 3y ago
  Yeah. For all the hate the Flash player got back in the day, the authoring software (which was Macromedia Flash when I last used it) was awesome. It has really nice motion interpolation (tweening) and onion-skinning tools. For Western animation this meant you didn’t need to outsource all the in-between work.
- lukan 3y ago
  Yeah, I was talking about Adobe Animate. It is not at all as useful as flash was, without exporting to flash. Exporting to html/canvas is a pain.
themagician 3y ago
When was the last time you tried it? Because I had a similar experience, and a young animator told me that they were using this in a production envrioment now and I was shocked. Adobe Animate was hot garbage after Flash died, but I recently (like two weeks ago) sat down with it for a bit and I have to say it feels quite good. It seems like there was a time period where Adobe was focused on Animate exporting to canvas and they sort of abandoned that and just turned it into a tool that would export to video. It can do both, but really Animate now is just, "Adboe Illustrator but for animation." So it's not exactly a direct replacement, it's more like Flash without ActionScript, but with some tools to kind of point you in the right direction for canvas + js.
- lukan 3y ago
  Some months ago and my conclusion was the same, useful enough for videos, too clumsy for interactive flash, so useless for my needs.