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I'd recommend people interested to listen to the Huberman lab podcast on "How Sugar & Processed Foods Impact Your Health". So in with an open mind, it's a good
by NoPicklez 3y ago
I'd recommend people interested to listen to the Huberman lab podcast on "How Sugar & Processed Foods Impact Your Health". So in with an open mind, it's a good episode.
The podcast mentions of a food classification system in the US called the NOVA system, which classifies foods in supermarkets based on the degree to which they have been processed based on the above scale.
- numinoid 3y agoThe guest is an absolute clown and charlatan.
- NoPicklez 3y agoHe is a bit overzealous in certain ways and does dramatise some of the findings
- datavirtue 3y agoOtherwise, no one will listen.
- Icathian 3y agoI particularly enjoy the irony of this stance being taken by someone with the username "datavirtue".
- sooheon 3y agoThe host is a supplement shill as well. It’s a “discussion” between a snake oil salesman and an algorithmic megaphone.
- squam 3y agoOh, I was quite taken in by him. Do you have any specific recommendations for detailed critiques/more information? Thank you Edit: a bit of googling turns up a number of results. E.g https://www.reddit.com/r/HubermanLab/comments/18qrjzl/lustig_episode_poor_fact_checking/ https://www.reddit.com/r/HubermanLab/comments/18qrjzl/lustig...
- ArthurAardvark 3y agoReally? On what basis? To be honest, I've been burnt out when it comes to supplements and health max/min type things, so I never dove deep into the Hubermann World. With that being said, I know he's a (purportedly) prolific Stanford researcher of all healthy living things...nutrition, sleep, supplements and so on. He knows what he is talking about from what I have listened to. We live in a society...blah blah, make a dollar blah blah. I highly doubt he's going out of his way to get people on things they shouldn't be on or claiming a supp. is something it is not. But if he is blatantly endorsing garbage/pushing bullocks claims, that'd be beyond highly unethical and astonishing.
- sooheon 3y agoThe basis is self evident: he is an affiliate marketer for an overpriced product with astronomical margins (investors piled in at north of a billion) making health claims without scientific basis, 3rd party testing, or transparent labeling. Good on him for getting his bag, but the incentives are clear: he made his name before sponsorships with quality content, but now the demand for ad impressions has outpaced his supply of meaningful insights. He needs to keep churning out videos to earn sponsorship dollars, so it's a natural symbiotic choice to invite low quality guests. They bring the content (and controversy / engagement / followers), he supplies the veneer of legitimacy, studio lighting and somber expression in the thumbnail. The advertisers benefit and all get their payday, as long as his adherents keep overpaying for processed powder with multivitamin.
- birksherty 3y ago> The basis is self evident: No it's not evidence. You wrote so many things but you also could not provide any evidence on what you said, product selling is not proof of anything. Please give proper evidence while accusing others of such and writing long comments.
- sooheon 3y agoProduct selling is proof of product selling. I wrote he is a supplement shill—-shilling for a supplement is proof enough of that.
- ornornor 3y ago> algorithmic megaphone Stealing that one, thanks!
- zackangelo 3y agoHe's referring to Robert Lustig, in case anyone else was curious.
- carabiner 3y agoIs AG1 not ultra processed?
- NoPicklez 3y agoIt would be considered ultra processed. Important to note that whilst the podcast brings different opinions on different matters. It doesn't necessarily mean that Andrew or the podcast endorses those opinions.
- mym1990 3y agoHuberman is sponsored by AG1, thereby he endorses the product.
- meowfly 3y agoThis is my issue with the term processed foods. If a food is processed because it has artificial sweeteners and food coloring, it's different then food containing high-fructose corn syrup and hydrogenated fats (which is what the study looked at). If you are going to condemn processed foods, show me that it's worse to eat Quest Bars than fruit and nuts with honey. I hold the problem is sugars (and alcohol).
- chihuahua 3y agoPodcast sponsors are blessed, and exempt from the normal rules.
- napierzaza 3y ago[dead]
- stakhanov 3y agoThe reason it doesn't fall into this category is not because it's not ultra-processed, but because it's not food, and no one is claiming that it's food either. Presumably the idea here is more about how many calories you ingest, and what proportion of those calories comes from what level of processing. AG1 is not going to be a significant proportion of anyone's caloric intake.
- cypherg 3y agoHuberman lost all credibility with the science and medical community years ago, lol