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I would love to smoke what the AI optimists are smoking. In a society where only 80% of people are barely literate and at least a quarter are voting for a candi

I would love to smoke what the AI optimists are smoking. In a society where only 80% of people are barely literate and at least a quarter are voting for a candidate that spouts conspiracy theories I highly doubt that whatever AI has to offer will benefit society.

reducesuffering 3y ago
They're smoking $. It is blatantly obvious that most people aboard the e/acc train can hardly hide their love of making money. Marc Andreessen owns, what, a $177 million compound? Unfortunately, after many years of nerdy idealism, Silicon Valley ended up with many corrupted to the same NYC Wall St. hedonism.
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swalsh 3y ago
Seeing AI do something you do for a living results in all the stages of grief. Denial (Oh it made a mistake on this, or it's not as good as a person) Anger (People are going to lose their jobs, this destroys the meaning of what we do, this will destroy society) Bargaining (Maybe it's good at this simple thing, but I can pivot to some other niche the AI can't currently do) Depression (It's faster, cheaper, better than me. It has taken over that which I relied on for meaning in my life...) Acceptance (I need to find something else to do with my life) AI Optimists often fall in 2 categories of people. They are capital owners who own the AI, and never had to go through the stages of grief... or they are people who learned how to use AI for their benefit, and have reached acceptance.
- felipeerias 3y ago
  It is likely that whole sectors will end up employing far fewer people than they do now and that this transition will be very sudden. The move to AI is part of a general trend of pauperisation of the working classes in the developed world. The only difference is that this time it will also affect those with higher education who until now have thought of themselves as irreplaceable.
pksebben 3y ago
So if AI is randomly as smart as any given cross-section of society, it has an %80 chance to be a benefit, then, doesn't it? The way I see it, we could replace our government (murrika) with a d20 and do better than we're doing now. A d20 with a nominal likelihood of thinking it's dice rolls through ought to just be an improvement on that.

reducesuffering 3y ago

They're smoking $. It is blatantly obvious that most people aboard the e/acc train can hardly hide their love of making money. Marc Andreessen owns, what, a $177 million compound? Unfortunately, after many years of nerdy idealism, Silicon Valley ended up with many corrupted to the same NYC Wall St. hedonism.

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swalsh 3y ago

Seeing AI do something you do for a living results in all the stages of grief. Denial (Oh it made a mistake on this, or it's not as good as a person) Anger (People are going to lose their jobs, this destroys the meaning of what we do, this will destroy society) Bargaining (Maybe it's good at this simple thing, but I can pivot to some other niche the AI can't currently do) Depression (It's faster, cheaper, better than me. It has taken over that which I relied on for meaning in my life...) Acceptance (I need to find something else to do with my life) AI Optimists often fall in 2 categories of people. They are capital owners who own the AI, and never had to go through the stages of grief... or they are people who learned how to use AI for their benefit, and have reached acceptance.

felipeerias 3y ago
It is likely that whole sectors will end up employing far fewer people than they do now and that this transition will be very sudden. The move to AI is part of a general trend of pauperisation of the working classes in the developed world. The only difference is that this time it will also affect those with higher education who until now have thought of themselves as irreplaceable.

pksebben 3y ago

So if AI is randomly as smart as any given cross-section of society, it has an %80 chance to be a benefit, then, doesn't it? The way I see it, we could replace our government (murrika) with a d20 and do better than we're doing now. A d20 with a nominal likelihood of thinking it's dice rolls through ought to just be an improvement on that.