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Sure wish CISA and SEC would effectively monitor and fine companies that suffer data breaches. After all, we're not being paid for that data, yet we remain the

Sure wish CISA and SEC would effectively monitor and fine companies that suffer data breaches. After all, we're not being paid for that data, yet we remain the victim of their actions.

toomuchtodo 3y ago
Reporting requirements exist [1], civil and criminal penalties will require Congressional action. Definitely gross that companies are using forced arbitration to avoid liability for their breaches (first 23andme, now Roku). Call your congressperson. Also, if you are impacted/have standing, consider an FTC complaint [2] and contacting your state’s attorney general. [1] https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2023-139 https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2023-139 [2] https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/ https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
- ryandrake 3y ago
  > Call your congressperson. I'm sure that after my phone call, my congressperson will drop all the things he is being paid thousands of lobbying dollars to do on behalf of his donors to get right on this. Sorry for the snark, but normal people are powerless to do anything about these shenanigans.
  - toomuchtodo 3y ago
    Medicare drug negotiations and $8 credit card late fee payments are my rebuttal. You aren’t supposed to fix it; you’re bringing it to the attention of leverage who can. Phone call is free besides your time.
  - rco8786 3y ago
    Super cynical. Those people hold outsized power, but they are not invincible by any stretch of the imagination. We hold the power in that we elect the public officials. They care about what we think also.
    - DinaCoder98 3y ago
      > We hold the power in that we elect the public officials. Very optimistic attitude!
      - rco8786 3y ago
        Is it? Just a plain fact. At least in the US
        DinaCoder98 3y ago
        I don't know what you mean by "fact", but your vote certainly holds less proportional power to influence a politician than that of 1/(population of the us). Politicians straight-up don't care about your opinion unless you can show up as a meaningful horde, and judging by the reaction to the Israeli invasion of Palestine that doesn't hold much water either.
        rco8786 3y ago
        I literally said that other interests hold outsized power. Not sure what your goal is here.
        DinaCoder98 3y ago
        I guess I read your comment as contradicting itself by the phrase "the power" rather than "the illusion of power", especially since the american public is so easily distracted by petty squabbling, whereas capital is emphatically not easily distracted but extremely focused on what it wants. Anyway, I don't mean to start an argument over the power of voting, illusory or no. We all have opinions about the value of voting that we hold rather tightly given so much emphasis is placed on it as the center of the political power we do hold.
        red-iron-pine 3y ago
        there have been a bunch of studies that show votes follow the donations, and the majority of folks aren't donating much.
- DinaCoder98 3y ago
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laweijfmvo 3y ago
First step, stop buying or using any product that monetizes your data
- zonkerdonker 3y ago
  Second step: become proficient at bushcraft, because thats where youll be spending the rest of your life after following step one.
  - vetrom 3y ago
    Not to keep running with thr joke, but: - while a total lockdown on exposure control of your personal data is basically impossible, proactive choices do limit it shouldn't be dismissed out of hand - a working knowledge and practice of bushcraft can be a useful skill, a fulfilling hobby, and can be practiced without feeding money to whatever the flavor of the week is - conversely, if you do get into that, be prepared for profiteers in that field to push into your attention. Going all bushcrafty is no protection on its own.
- rco8786 3y ago
  This is functionally impossible in much of modern society.
  - bananabiscuit 3y ago
    Maybe modern society was a mistake.
    - rco8786 3y ago
      That’s pretty tough to argue by any measurement I can think of.
    - red-iron-pine 3y ago
      how much time have you spent in a non-modern society? cuz I got deployed twice and saw some pretty backwards-ass places overseas. like we can just pass laws that respect privacy, dawg. build some better public transit.

Sure wish CISA and SEC would effectively monitor and fine companies that suffer data breaches. After all, we're not being paid for that data, yet we remain the victim of their actions.

toomuchtodo 3y ago

Reporting requirements exist [1], civil and criminal penalties will require Congressional action. Definitely gross that companies are using forced arbitration to avoid liability for their breaches (first 23andme, now Roku). Call your congressperson. Also, if you are impacted/have standing, consider an FTC complaint [2] and contacting your state’s attorney general. [1] https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2023-139 https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2023-139 [2] https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/ https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

ryandrake 3y ago
> Call your congressperson. I'm sure that after my phone call, my congressperson will drop all the things he is being paid thousands of lobbying dollars to do on behalf of his donors to get right on this. Sorry for the snark, but normal people are powerless to do anything about these shenanigans.
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  Medicare drug negotiations and $8 credit card late fee payments are my rebuttal. You aren’t supposed to fix it; you’re bringing it to the attention of leverage who can. Phone call is free besides your time.
- rco8786 3y ago
  Super cynical. Those people hold outsized power, but they are not invincible by any stretch of the imagination. We hold the power in that we elect the public officials. They care about what we think also.
  - DinaCoder98 3y ago
    > We hold the power in that we elect the public officials. Very optimistic attitude!
    - rco8786 3y ago
      Is it? Just a plain fact. At least in the US
      - DinaCoder98 3y ago
        I don't know what you mean by "fact", but your vote certainly holds less proportional power to influence a politician than that of 1/(population of the us). Politicians straight-up don't care about your opinion unless you can show up as a meaningful horde, and judging by the reaction to the Israeli invasion of Palestine that doesn't hold much water either.
        rco8786 3y ago
        I literally said that other interests hold outsized power. Not sure what your goal is here.
        DinaCoder98 3y ago
        I guess I read your comment as contradicting itself by the phrase "the power" rather than "the illusion of power", especially since the american public is so easily distracted by petty squabbling, whereas capital is emphatically not easily distracted but extremely focused on what it wants. Anyway, I don't mean to start an argument over the power of voting, illusory or no. We all have opinions about the value of voting that we hold rather tightly given so much emphasis is placed on it as the center of the political power we do hold.
      - red-iron-pine 3y ago
        there have been a bunch of studies that show votes follow the donations, and the majority of folks aren't donating much.
DinaCoder98 3y ago
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laweijfmvo 3y ago

First step, stop buying or using any product that monetizes your data

zonkerdonker 3y ago
Second step: become proficient at bushcraft, because thats where youll be spending the rest of your life after following step one.
- vetrom 3y ago
  Not to keep running with thr joke, but: - while a total lockdown on exposure control of your personal data is basically impossible, proactive choices do limit it shouldn't be dismissed out of hand - a working knowledge and practice of bushcraft can be a useful skill, a fulfilling hobby, and can be practiced without feeding money to whatever the flavor of the week is - conversely, if you do get into that, be prepared for profiteers in that field to push into your attention. Going all bushcrafty is no protection on its own.
rco8786 3y ago
This is functionally impossible in much of modern society.
- bananabiscuit 3y ago
  Maybe modern society was a mistake.
  - rco8786 3y ago
    That’s pretty tough to argue by any measurement I can think of.
  - red-iron-pine 3y ago
    how much time have you spent in a non-modern society? cuz I got deployed twice and saw some pretty backwards-ass places overseas. like we can just pass laws that respect privacy, dawg. build some better public transit.