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He should have done like Snowden. Got out of the country before exposing material. Shouldn't a witness in a high profile case like him been granted some sort of
by Qem 3y ago
He should have done like Snowden. Got out of the country before exposing material. Shouldn't a witness in a high profile case like him been granted some sort of police escort by the court?
Guy paid the ultimate price for freedom of speech and informing the public. Wonder if someone will sustain there is no threat to freedom of speech because the lawsuit involved the company where he was employed, not the government.
I'm also reminded of Aaron Schartz, as well as the ordeal Steven Donzinger went through against Chevron. Fortunately survived, but had to serve some prison time[1].
[1]. https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/steven-donziger-interview-texaco-oil-b2446695.html https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/steven-don...
- jj999 3y agoName a juridiction where he would have been both i)taken in and ii)secure.
- ashconnor 3y agoAirbus HQ
- mjtechguy 3y ago[flagged]
- catchnear4321 3y agohow does one get from the us to france, quickly?
- klyrs 3y agoOn a Bombardier, via Canada?
- catchnear4321 3y agoahhh, just get to quebec, tiré d'affaire.
- Hamuko 3y agoPreferably not on a Boeing flight.
- Beretta_Vexee 3y agoThe fastest way is probably to reach Saint Pierre and Miquelon by ATR 42 or by ferry from Canada. France's overseas collectivities are amazing.
- eunos 3y ago(unironically) HK
- RobotToaster 3y agoAs long as he stuck to whistleblowing American companies, Russia.
- dotnet00 3y agoThen his testimony would be easily dismissed by the government as Russian propaganda
- dontlaugh 3y agoChina, Vietnam, Cuba, to name a few.
- Chinchilla03 3y ago[flagged]
- Chinchilla03 3y ago[flagged]
- hilux 3y agoI didn't downvote you (I can't!), but I have no idea what the parent message says. Possibly you were downvoted for lack of clarity, and not because everyone here is a "BO assassin"?
- Chinchilla03 3y agoSee, that's why I don't post on any social platform regularly because the majority don't see the overall connection and picture, and refuse to accept the facts in any way they can. Whatever I write generally get deleted or hidden with no reason given, which I get quite used to, and society just hopelessly never changes.
- slater 3y agoLess of the onerous "if only others could see what I, random internet person, has seen!" self-aggrandizing would go a super-long way, imho.
- Chinchilla03 3y agoIn RL I never do such, as I know how to pretend and survive, for my own good. What I pointed out is that the dead guy did it with courage, with of course his life being the cost. Scaling it up I see something, and with the overall disappointment I find place to suit myself better in the future. And I don't plan to go a super long way with the majority anyway. This book is strongly recommended to read: "The Crowd" written by Gustave Le Bon. Tiktok swipers don't need to bother.
- harrisi 3y agoAaron Swartz, not Schartz.
- bruce511 3y agoOn the one hand, violence is always a threat to speaking freely. This is not new. At the very least getting fired is what most people can expect if they speak freely about legitimately confidential things at work. Even things like disparaging co-workers, in a public setting, or harassing people at work by saying inappropriate things can get you fired. You are free to speak freely, but there are consequences, Free Speech does not imply uou can say what you like consequence free. In some (criminal) industries, speaking freely will get you killed. If Hollywood is to be believed, speaking against the rich and powerful can get you killed. (I suspect it happens, I suspect its nowhere near as common as Hollywood makes out.) To your point though Free Speech (capital F) has a specific constitutional meaning, and covers the consequences the govt can apply to your speaking freely. It does not promise no consequences by companies. There is no threat to Freedom of Speech here, because what he was doing was not that kind of speech. Of course there is a chilling effect on speaking freely, his speaking out had consequences (regardless of the hand that pulled the trigger.) In short you can't just say whatever you like (as E Jean Carrol understands) without consequence. That's not what Freedom of Speech means.
- jj999 3y agoNo one care about your constitution outside your borders while the concept of Free Speech is universal and isn't defined by a geographicaly limited piece of paper. I'll never let your regressive law colonize my thoughts.
- bruce511 3y agoCan you please elaborate on what you consider the Universal definition of Free Speech to be? Are you suggesting that people have the right to say anything they like, in any forum, without consequence?
- leetcodesucks 3y ago[dead]