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Wasn't it this way from the start, though?

thepasswordis 3y ago
Moderation really used to be just removing spam or abuse. At some point it became enforcing topics. While yes a subreddit about trains should stay in topic space about trains, mods have overstepped that. Take for instance the Star Trek subreddit. Criticism of Star Trek discovery is banned, despite being clearly on topic.
- r721 3y ago
  Yeah, I think topics should be separated from communities in future Reddit-like websites. I mean it's an indisputable fact that some article is about trains, and what's arguable is whether it needs to be discussed in that particular community. In my mind it looks something like this: 1) user posts a link (and upvotes some initial topics) 2) other users vote on those topics, also can propose some additional ones 3) topic mods can superdownvote/remove some topics (in case of trolling etc.) 4) community mods select posts for their communities from available posts, possibly automatically (based on upvoted topics)
  - harkinian 3y ago
    The community thing seems fine. If you don't like how a community is run, you can go to a different one.
    - r721 3y ago
      This is how it works now, and I'm thinking about alternative ways. Communities do also exist in my model, and you can do the same thing. But you don't need to be a hardcore reddit user which has esoteric knowledge like "these articles are allowed in /r/trains1, and these are better to be posted to /r/trains5".
      - kps 3y ago
        I'm watching Bluesky with interest, because I think it claims to offer that; you would in principle create a ‘feed’ matching (tagged-#Trains AND (approved-by-Trains1 OR approved-by-Trains5) AND NOT rejected-by-CrapFilter23). The interface is horribly twitter-like but does at least have threading (and unlike !&*#&$ Mastodon, respects `:preferred-color-scheme`), and it's not clear that it couldn't have an alternative old.reddit-like interface.
  - thepasswordis 3y ago
    I think the way HN does it would be good; give me the “showdead” option.

Moderation really used to be just removing spam or abuse. At some point it became enforcing topics. While yes a subreddit about trains should stay in topic space about trains, mods have overstepped that. Take for instance the Star Trek subreddit. Criticism of Star Trek discovery is banned, despite being clearly on topic.

r721 3y ago
Yeah, I think topics should be separated from communities in future Reddit-like websites. I mean it's an indisputable fact that some article is about trains, and what's arguable is whether it needs to be discussed in that particular community. In my mind it looks something like this: 1) user posts a link (and upvotes some initial topics) 2) other users vote on those topics, also can propose some additional ones 3) topic mods can superdownvote/remove some topics (in case of trolling etc.) 4) community mods select posts for their communities from available posts, possibly automatically (based on upvoted topics)
- harkinian 3y ago
  The community thing seems fine. If you don't like how a community is run, you can go to a different one.
  - r721 3y ago
    This is how it works now, and I'm thinking about alternative ways. Communities do also exist in my model, and you can do the same thing. But you don't need to be a hardcore reddit user which has esoteric knowledge like "these articles are allowed in /r/trains1, and these are better to be posted to /r/trains5".
    - kps 3y ago
      I'm watching Bluesky with interest, because I think it claims to offer that; you would in principle create a ‘feed’ matching (tagged-#Trains AND (approved-by-Trains1 OR approved-by-Trains5) AND NOT rejected-by-CrapFilter23). The interface is horribly twitter-like but does at least have threading (and unlike !&*#&$ Mastodon, respects `:preferred-color-scheme`), and it's not clear that it couldn't have an alternative old.reddit-like interface.
- thepasswordis 3y ago
  I think the way HN does it would be good; give me the “showdead” option.