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Your math for the $144 million button makes for a good headline, but seems a bit dodgey. Plus, why is this article linked to instead of the New York Times artic
by pscheufele 14y ago
Your math for the $144 million button makes for a good headline, but seems a bit dodgey. Plus, why is this article linked to instead of the New York Times article it references with actual information?
WHEN TIP WAS 10%:
BASE REVENUE = 82,497
TIP REVENUE = 8,250
TOTAL REVENUE = 90,747
TIP UP TO 22%, ASSUMING SAME BASE REVENUE
BASE REVENUE = 82,497
TIP REVENUE = 18,149
TOTAL REVENUE = 100,646
TIP REVENUE INCREASE = 9,899
CREDIT CARD FEE AT
1% = 1,006
2% = 2,012
3% = 3,018
4% = 4,024
5% = 5,030
13,267 CABS
LETS ASSUME THAT EVERY FARE WERE PAID WITH CC.
ASSUME 5% CC FEE, BECAUSE THE NEW YORK TIMES ARTICLE SAYS "higher tips are tempered by a 5 percent service fee applied to fares that are paid with plastic," TOTAL REVENUE, LESS CREDIT CARDS = 95,616
TOTAL TIP INCREASE = ~131.3 MILLION
TOTAL CC FEES = ~66.7 MILLION
TOTAL INCREASE FOR CABS, LESS CC FEES = ~64.4 MILLION
Now, since the credit card tips are going to have to be fully declared for tax purposes, since they will come back to cab drivers in paychecks and with 5% of the TOTAL FARE taken out, I would actually guess cab drivers are seeing LESS MONEY than they were before the credit card machines were installed. I would bet that the 10% tip average pre-card machine is actually low based on undeclared cash tips, and having tax taken on a full 22% will drop the net significantly. When factoring in credit card fees and taxes, cab drivers are probably making less on this deal. But hey, at least Visa and MasterCard must be psyched.
NYT:
Told of the statistics that showed higher tips, some drivers scoffed. “I know that’s not true,” said William Lindauer, a driver and coordinating member of the New York Taxi Workers Alliance. “They get no tips, or less tips.”
- homosaur 14y agoPeople like to pimp their own blogs on here, which is basically only a half step up from liking your own posts on Facebook.
- djacobs 14y agoI'm not sure that sharing on HN is analogous to liking on FB.
- powera 14y agoWhy are you using all-caps? The tax and credit card implications are irrelevant to the point of the linked article, which is about the framing / convenience aspect of having suggested tip percentages. Whether taxi drivers are making more money from credit cards (and you seem to have an interest in believing they aren't) is orthogonal to whether tip suggestions help them make more money.
- pscheufele 14y agoPowera, this was my first thought as well, but even looking at the question this way is not realistic because the variables don't match. To answer this question, we would need to test (a) credit card machine payment without tip suggestions vs. (b) credit card machine payments with tip suggestions. By comparing machine vs. cash, the fact that cash tips would never be declared accurately skews the results to where the test fails.
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