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Airbnb did previously allow indoor cameras?!

kube-system 3y ago
Yes, I stayed in one that had one in the entryway pointed at the interior of the front door. Very uncommon in my experience, but this was in someone's home that they actively lived in, but were away for the weekend, so I found it to be understandable.
- GJim 3y ago
  > I found it to be understandable I'm astounded you found it understandable. If I'm renting rooms, I certainly don't expect the landlord to be in the business of filming myself or family, especially as we may well be walking around sans clothing. Not only is this rather illegal, I suggest plenty of people would find themselves responding to the landlord rather violently in such a situation. And I would not blame them.
  - kube-system 3y ago
    My experience was such that it wasn't that way at all. The camera was indoors but not in areas of the house where someone would be walking around without clothing, and they were clearly disclosed in advance before booking, and they were clearly visible in the home.
    - kwhitefoot 3y ago
      Why would I not be able to be naked in all parts of the house?
      - 93po 3y ago
        because the example is that you're renting a room in a house shared with other people
      - kube-system 3y ago
        Some houses have areas where it is fairly reasonable that people wouldn't be running around naked, e.g common areas shared with others, or rooms with a large amount of glass open to the exterior of the home. And in some cases it might even be illegal for you to be naked in those areas if exposed to others.
        GJim 3y ago
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        kube-system 3y ago
        I'm not defending it, I said I understood it. I have similar cameras in my own house, so why wouldn't others? Further, expectation of privacy are commonly accepted to be more complicated than "indoor vs outdoor". To suggest otherwise is just hyperbolic pearl clutching. My two examples above are perfectly normal situations in which expectations of privacy are lowered.
jmuguy 3y ago
Yes - but you had to disclose it very prominently in the listing.
veunes 3y ago
Yes, cameras were allowed to be installed, but host are required to notify about it. As I was explained, this allows, for example, placing one outside the entrance door, to know how many people actually were living there, because there are cases when people deceive. And the price depends on the number of people as I know

Yes, I stayed in one that had one in the entryway pointed at the interior of the front door. Very uncommon in my experience, but this was in someone's home that they actively lived in, but were away for the weekend, so I found it to be understandable.

GJim 3y ago
> I found it to be understandable I'm astounded you found it understandable. If I'm renting rooms, I certainly don't expect the landlord to be in the business of filming myself or family, especially as we may well be walking around sans clothing. Not only is this rather illegal, I suggest plenty of people would find themselves responding to the landlord rather violently in such a situation. And I would not blame them.
- kube-system 3y ago
  My experience was such that it wasn't that way at all. The camera was indoors but not in areas of the house where someone would be walking around without clothing, and they were clearly disclosed in advance before booking, and they were clearly visible in the home.
  - kwhitefoot 3y ago
    Why would I not be able to be naked in all parts of the house?
    - 93po 3y ago
      because the example is that you're renting a room in a house shared with other people
    - kube-system 3y ago
      Some houses have areas where it is fairly reasonable that people wouldn't be running around naked, e.g common areas shared with others, or rooms with a large amount of glass open to the exterior of the home. And in some cases it might even be illegal for you to be naked in those areas if exposed to others.
      - GJim 3y ago
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        kube-system 3y ago
        I'm not defending it, I said I understood it. I have similar cameras in my own house, so why wouldn't others? Further, expectation of privacy are commonly accepted to be more complicated than "indoor vs outdoor". To suggest otherwise is just hyperbolic pearl clutching. My two examples above are perfectly normal situations in which expectations of privacy are lowered.

jmuguy 3y ago

Yes - but you had to disclose it very prominently in the listing.

veunes 3y ago

Yes, cameras were allowed to be installed, but host are required to notify about it. As I was explained, this allows, for example, placing one outside the entrance door, to know how many people actually were living there, because there are cases when people deceive. And the price depends on the number of people as I know