>which is also not what blameless fact finding is about, as other replies correctly pointed out Blameless fact finding is for dealing with errors and failures

>which is also not what blameless fact finding is about, as other replies correctly pointed out Blameless fact finding is for dealing with errors and failures made in good faith. Far too many things have happened for these to be "good faith" errors and evidence and attitudes which have come out have made this plain. You stop being nice about it when foul play is the most reasonable suspicion at this scale. >You're advocating for punishing specific people before any evidence has pointed to their guilt The Boeing board should be replaced for what is already public. >executives probably need jail Notice the qualifier "probably". What I'm saying is this is what criminality looks like, the exact nature is still being investigated, but it should and is now being investigated like a crime instead of the normal flow for accidents which is the blaming fact finding which is only useful when everybody is actually interested in safety.