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You want people's taxes to subsidise cheap charging. Of course you are fine with taxes on gas. I guess whatever the state says, goes. Reality be damned. The
by verisimi 3y ago
You want people's taxes to subsidise cheap charging. Of course you are fine with taxes on gas. I guess whatever the state says, goes. Reality be damned. The state's reality be blessed.
- harshaw 3y agoI would like the earth to not get Warmer. full stop.
- realreality 3y agoIf that's the case, EVs aren't the answer, either. Industrial civilization must stop. full stop.
- OkayPhysicist 3y agoThat's doomer nonsense parroting Big Oil propaganda. Mass electrification, a mixed grid of nuclear and renewables, and some concerted, but far from unachievable, investment into carbon capture (burying charcoal) could easily get us to a "not making things any worse" level.
- realreality 3y agoIndustrial civilization is a lifestyle that can never be sustainable. I'm not "parroting Big Oil propaganda". They're one of the worst culprits, who managed to addict us to cheap energy. Now everybody expects access to cars, planes, and electric grids, no matter how destructive they are.
- OkayPhysicist 3y agoThe oil companies have realized they're losing the fight on "global warming doesn't exist". That just leaves "global warming is bad, but giving up on fossil fuels would be worse", which is exactly what you're (presumably unintentionally) spreading. The whole reason anyone should care about climate change is that it's going to make life worse for ourselves and our descendants. If your pitch for addressing climate change is "let's make our lives worse, proactively", then you're never going to win popular support. Good messaging is "We can make our lives better, and give future generations the opportunity for even better lives, without fossil fuels". Anything else is inadvertently advocating for nihilistic hedonism as the world burns.
- throwway120385 3y agoWhat about food subsidies? Or the massive subsidy we give drivers in the form of paved, maintained roads? Are only the subsidies you personally benefit from okay or can we sometimes give subsidies to other people?
- verisimi 3y agoI'm not really fine with taxes or subsidies at all. I certainly don't think that state officials have some special insight to judge the best way to spend communal funds... of course their pensions feature highly in worthy expenditures.
- throwway120385 3y agoHow do communities put funding together for special projects in your mind? Do we just not do that?
- verisimi 3y agoHave you ever heard of community gardens, or community anything really? This is where people voluntarily contribute to what is perceived as some communal good. The key word is 'voluntary', ie without coercion, force or manipulation. If you don't pay taxes, you will be forced to pay, regardless of whether you agree with the attack (not defence) budget, or whether you would like the money to be used on actual communally valued goals as opposed to lining an ever increasing number of government workers' pockets, or the cradle-to-grave propaganda effort, etc.
- throwway120385 3y agoYeah, in fact the area I live in has several of those. But I'm talking about building things like roads, water systems, sanitation, etc.. How do you propose those things get built?
- verisimi 3y ago