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I still see my point standing that modern architecture is very unpopular in Germany.

qwytw 3y ago
Brutalism (which generally most/many people seem to dislike) isn't the same as Bauhaus though. > modern architecture is very unpopular in Germany IMHO it has much more to do with the constraints of the 50s and 60s. All major cities in Germany were destroyed and had to be rebuilt fast and cheap. Of course buildings from the late 19th/early 20th century might have looked a lot nicer but they were also massively more expensive (would you rather many cheap and ugly high density buildings or a few better looking expensive ones, it's not like there were that many other options).
- snowpid 3y ago
  Many, many, many, many of pre WWI buildings were constrained by budget and had poor inhabitants. Today they are very popular (and nobody poor can afford it anymore)
  - usrusr 3y ago
    Where I live it was a close call between rebuilding in modern layouts (car-friendly and that entire "block in a park landscape" approach that I consider the biggest failure of 20th century architecture, nobody likes these "parks" that are too close to buildings to feel public and too open to feel private) and rebuilding in the old layout, with houses on the edge of the street enclosing hidden backyards, roof lines closely matching pre-war roof lines. Old layout won and today everybody is very happy about that. But wherever there are old stock buildings and post war reconstruction buildings in the same street, the old ones are considered much higher standard, despite best efforts to avoid modernism in the reconstruction. From today's perspective, the actual age difference between one group and the other is laughably small. But in the rush to rebuild post war, the "good enough" threshold was so much lower than pre WWI the difference echoes on through the renovations to this day.
  - lukan 3y ago
    Because labour was cheap and plenty, when they were built with hand with bricks. Also some survivorship bias, as many badly build ones, did not survive the bombs so well. After WW2 it was mainly cheap concrete.
- bratwurst3000 3y ago
  I am from Germany and your point is valid. Older buildings are preferred because the alternative is those build in the 50s fast and cheap. But it’s untrue that only rich people live in old buildings. Maybe in some parts. But most old buildings are in the poorer regions of the inner city. Most rich people I know live in modern buildings. Some in older but very well remade ones…

Brutalism (which generally most/many people seem to dislike) isn't the same as Bauhaus though. > modern architecture is very unpopular in Germany IMHO it has much more to do with the constraints of the 50s and 60s. All major cities in Germany were destroyed and had to be rebuilt fast and cheap. Of course buildings from the late 19th/early 20th century might have looked a lot nicer but they were also massively more expensive (would you rather many cheap and ugly high density buildings or a few better looking expensive ones, it's not like there were that many other options).

snowpid 3y ago
Many, many, many, many of pre WWI buildings were constrained by budget and had poor inhabitants. Today they are very popular (and nobody poor can afford it anymore)
- usrusr 3y ago
  Where I live it was a close call between rebuilding in modern layouts (car-friendly and that entire "block in a park landscape" approach that I consider the biggest failure of 20th century architecture, nobody likes these "parks" that are too close to buildings to feel public and too open to feel private) and rebuilding in the old layout, with houses on the edge of the street enclosing hidden backyards, roof lines closely matching pre-war roof lines. Old layout won and today everybody is very happy about that. But wherever there are old stock buildings and post war reconstruction buildings in the same street, the old ones are considered much higher standard, despite best efforts to avoid modernism in the reconstruction. From today's perspective, the actual age difference between one group and the other is laughably small. But in the rush to rebuild post war, the "good enough" threshold was so much lower than pre WWI the difference echoes on through the renovations to this day.
- lukan 3y ago
  Because labour was cheap and plenty, when they were built with hand with bricks. Also some survivorship bias, as many badly build ones, did not survive the bombs so well. After WW2 it was mainly cheap concrete.
bratwurst3000 3y ago
I am from Germany and your point is valid. Older buildings are preferred because the alternative is those build in the 50s fast and cheap. But it’s untrue that only rich people live in old buildings. Maybe in some parts. But most old buildings are in the poorer regions of the inner city. Most rich people I know live in modern buildings. Some in older but very well remade ones…