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It is still beyond me why a common tool as a word processor needs to be an always online web-app. This cloud thing to this day feels like an inferior technical

It is still beyond me why a common tool as a word processor needs to be an always online web-app. This cloud thing to this day feels like an inferior technical solution that's being forced by big companies at the detriment of end users, not to mention the privacy downsides. And I say that as someone who earns his keep doing cloud stuff.

onion2k 3y ago
It is still beyond me why a common tool as a word processor needs to be an always online web-app. It doesn't, and Word works fine entirely offline. If you want live collaboration on a document, or integration with AI, or if you want your employees not to have Word installed because that requires an IT department to manage at scale instead of running the app in a browser, then you need a network connection.
- torginus 3y ago
  > If you want live collaboration on a document, I have never wanted that ever. There are wikis with markdown for that. > Integration with AI AI still creeps me out to this day. Why would I want Microsoft to ingest my documents to train their next gen AI blackbox on it? Besides, the only thing AI can do is take the information the document has, and say it with more words. > if you want your employees not to have Word installed Got it, package management is still busted, and MS is disincentivised from fixing it.
e_i_pi_2 3y ago
My main use case has been when you need to work on a document on multiple computers, or collaboratively. In that case it solves a big problem of dealing with flash drives, different versions, and email attachments/updates
- kkfx 3y ago
  Mandate something is different than allowing something. IF/When you want to have public versioning of a document, even multiple hands writing together with multiple cursors visible on all participant screens you can have something on-line. There is no need to mandate be online, except surveillance capitalism. Another story is the fact no wise user have reasons to have modern office suite to work on office task, but that's a more complex and broad topic about regressive evolution and computer illiteracy...
Unfrozen0688 3y ago
>needs to be an always online web-app Its not. If you buy the desktop apps in the subscription, you get winword.exe. Microsoft 365 includes the robust Office desktop apps that you’re familiar with, like Word, PowerPoint, and Excel. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/microsoft-365-for-home-and-school-faq https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/microsoft-365-...
kotaKat 3y ago
The hilarious part is that the New Outlook(tm) now won't open offline yet Teams does?

onion2k 3y ago

It is still beyond me why a common tool as a word processor needs to be an always online web-app. It doesn't, and Word works fine entirely offline. If you want live collaboration on a document, or integration with AI, or if you want your employees not to have Word installed because that requires an IT department to manage at scale instead of running the app in a browser, then you need a network connection.

torginus 3y ago
> If you want live collaboration on a document, I have never wanted that ever. There are wikis with markdown for that. > Integration with AI AI still creeps me out to this day. Why would I want Microsoft to ingest my documents to train their next gen AI blackbox on it? Besides, the only thing AI can do is take the information the document has, and say it with more words. > if you want your employees not to have Word installed Got it, package management is still busted, and MS is disincentivised from fixing it.

e_i_pi_2 3y ago

My main use case has been when you need to work on a document on multiple computers, or collaboratively. In that case it solves a big problem of dealing with flash drives, different versions, and email attachments/updates

kkfx 3y ago
Mandate something is different than allowing something. IF/When you want to have public versioning of a document, even multiple hands writing together with multiple cursors visible on all participant screens you can have something on-line. There is no need to mandate be online, except surveillance capitalism. Another story is the fact no wise user have reasons to have modern office suite to work on office task, but that's a more complex and broad topic about regressive evolution and computer illiteracy...

Unfrozen0688 3y ago

>needs to be an always online web-app Its not. If you buy the desktop apps in the subscription, you get winword.exe. Microsoft 365 includes the robust Office desktop apps that you’re familiar with, like Word, PowerPoint, and Excel. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/microsoft-365-for-home-and-school-faq https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/microsoft-365-...

kotaKat 3y ago

The hilarious part is that the New Outlook(tm) now won't open offline yet Teams does?