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Kind of being pedantic about definition of "plot" or "plot point". Isn't this whole book about climate change? And the character experiences a climate 'event'

Kind of being pedantic about definition of "plot" or "plot point". Isn't this whole book about climate change? And the character experiences a climate 'event', that impacts the direction of the story? Changes their perspective? "There's a common misconception that a plot point is anything that happens in a story. In this way, people often confuse a plot point for a story beat. Story beats are the smallest units of storytelling, allowing you to break down a story into small parts without looking at individual paragraphs or sentences. A plot point, on the other hand, marks a major turning point in the plot. So a story beat and a plot point will overlap, but not every story beat is a plot. There are far more story beats than plot points in a given story." https://blog.reedsy.com/guide/plot/plot-point/ https://blog.reedsy.com/guide/plot/plot-point/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plot_point https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plot_point https://kindlepreneur.com/plot-point/ https://kindlepreneur.com/plot-point/

netsharc 3y ago
> Kind of being pedantic about definition of "plot" or "plot point". > Isn't this whole book about climate change? Wouldn't that be called the theme of the book? There are several interwoven plots, the main one being the story of the Ministry and of the people working for it.
- FrustratedMonky 3y ago
  Guess that is why I used "Pedantic". Just arguing around definitions of words at this point. What is a "plot" versus "theme" versus "just an incident" verses "plot point". If you want to say there are several 'plots', thus the book's 'plot', is not climate change, because climate change is really an overall 'theme', but not a plot. I took the previous discussion to mean, that there was an event with a wet-bulb incident, and this one 'incident' could be a 'plot point' in one of the plots. And guess overall theme of the book is around climate, which is on display with the wet-bulb 'plot'? So guess, if you are saying I was incorrect because there are several 'plots', thus I can't say "the plot of the book is climate change". Ok. I'm ok with using the word "theme" instead. Edit: Guess I would say the 'plot' of "World War Z" is a 'realistic interpretation of a zombie outbreak'. But, it was all short stories, so not really a 'plot'. But a theme. Maybe the word plot is problem. Means one thing in vernacular, but does mean something more detailed to an English major.
  - netsharc 3y ago
    Some times there are intelligent discussions on HN... This isn't one of those times.
    - FrustratedMonky 3y ago
      I agree.

netsharc 3y ago

> Kind of being pedantic about definition of "plot" or "plot point". > Isn't this whole book about climate change? Wouldn't that be called the theme of the book? There are several interwoven plots, the main one being the story of the Ministry and of the people working for it.

FrustratedMonky 3y ago
Guess that is why I used "Pedantic". Just arguing around definitions of words at this point. What is a "plot" versus "theme" versus "just an incident" verses "plot point". If you want to say there are several 'plots', thus the book's 'plot', is not climate change, because climate change is really an overall 'theme', but not a plot. I took the previous discussion to mean, that there was an event with a wet-bulb incident, and this one 'incident' could be a 'plot point' in one of the plots. And guess overall theme of the book is around climate, which is on display with the wet-bulb 'plot'? So guess, if you are saying I was incorrect because there are several 'plots', thus I can't say "the plot of the book is climate change". Ok. I'm ok with using the word "theme" instead. Edit: Guess I would say the 'plot' of "World War Z" is a 'realistic interpretation of a zombie outbreak'. But, it was all short stories, so not really a 'plot'. But a theme. Maybe the word plot is problem. Means one thing in vernacular, but does mean something more detailed to an English major.
- netsharc 3y ago
  Some times there are intelligent discussions on HN... This isn't one of those times.
  - FrustratedMonky 3y ago
    I agree.