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I like the Eclipse UI. I just don't like how it behave on high resolution displays on Linux. I was unable to create an account for the bug tracker without sign

by elric 3y ago

I like the Eclipse UI. I just don't like how it behave on high resolution displays on Linux. I was unable to create an account for the bug tracker without signing a CLA. Maybe that's changed now, but I'm pretty sure that was the case when I last tried. I wouldn't say that Eclipse has dramatically improved on the last few years. On the contrary. It feels more sluggish to me and it crashes more frequently than before. The plugin Marketplace in Eclipse is a steaming pile of shite. Installing plugins is an incredibly slow and painful affair. It can take MINUTES to run a search for a plugin, and while it's loading the rest of the UI just freezes. That's a shame. But given that I can't even figure out how to build the full IDE with its hundrends of plugins, and the CLA nonsense, I certainly won't be investing my time on trying to fix that.

giamma 3y ago
Can't talk for Linux, I am now using Eclipse on Mac. I used Eclipse on Linux about 8 years ago, and I remember running into frequent issues at that time: the problem was that I was using Ubuntu 16.04, but the SWT widget toolkit maintainers for Linux were Red Hat employees and they were focused mostly on Fedora. For several months SWT was very unstable because the native nature of SWT made it difficult to support it on the different Linux distributions, especially during the transition from GTK2 to GTK3, and considering that Ubuntu was tweaking GTK a lot to achieve its own unique visual style. You can get an idea of the problems the Linux maintainers were having here [1] At the same time, the release notes of Eclipse clearly stated that that particular version of Ubuntu was not supported. So maybe you are running into the same issue, maybe you are using a Linux distribution that is not amongst the list of officially supported (=tested) Linux distributions. With respect to market place and plug-ins my experience is different from yours, but having worked on Eclipse plug-ins for years I am certainly a more expert user. As I already said, to me the worst aspect of Eclipse is the p2 package format. It probably solves many problems (e.g. it tries to guarantee that you don't end up with a broken Eclipse instance due to lack of dependencies), but I often think that they could have achieved the same by using plain-old Maven dependencies and BOMs. [1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=492371 https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=492371 Edit: fixed typos

by elric 3y ago

giamma 3y ago

Can't talk for Linux, I am now using Eclipse on Mac. I used Eclipse on Linux about 8 years ago, and I remember running into frequent issues at that time: the problem was that I was using Ubuntu 16.04, but the SWT widget toolkit maintainers for Linux were Red Hat employees and they were focused mostly on Fedora. For several months SWT was very unstable because the native nature of SWT made it difficult to support it on the different Linux distributions, especially during the transition from GTK2 to GTK3, and considering that Ubuntu was tweaking GTK a lot to achieve its own unique visual style. You can get an idea of the problems the Linux maintainers were having here [1] At the same time, the release notes of Eclipse clearly stated that that particular version of Ubuntu was not supported. So maybe you are running into the same issue, maybe you are using a Linux distribution that is not amongst the list of officially supported (=tested) Linux distributions. With respect to market place and plug-ins my experience is different from yours, but having worked on Eclipse plug-ins for years I am certainly a more expert user. As I already said, to me the worst aspect of Eclipse is the p2 package format. It probably solves many problems (e.g. it tries to guarantee that you don't end up with a broken Eclipse instance due to lack of dependencies), but I often think that they could have achieved the same by using plain-old Maven dependencies and BOMs. [1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=492371 https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=492371 Edit: fixed typos