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It is scary - but I suspect the headline temperatures/humidity aren't the only story. We can build passive structures to regulate peak temperatures - caves and

It is scary - but I suspect the headline temperatures/humidity aren't the only story. We can build passive structures to regulate peak temperatures - caves and windowless insulated boxes with high thermal mass, for instance. As long as the average temperatures (day and night) over a few days or a week are survivable, active cooling isn't strictly necessary.

coldtea 3y ago
>We can build passive structures to regulate peak temperatures - caves and windowless insulated boxes with high thermal mass, for instance. As long as the average temperatures (day and night) over a few days or a week are survivable, active cooling isn't strictly necessary. Survival is a consolation, but if we need to start living in caves and windowless insulated boxes, then those are not very reassuring news...
- Gigachad 3y ago
  But we managed to deliver a lot of value to shareholders before then.
  - AtlasBarfed 3y ago
    Shareholders being about 100 billionaires
- carlosjobim 3y ago
  Make a visit to one of the cold-as-hell regions of the world and take a look at how traditional houses look. Window sizes, wall thickness. Look at the energy usage needed to survive the climate. If people organise themselves, they can both survive and thrive in extreme conditions. Even just as isolated individuals. Regions with high humidity and high temperatures also have huge rivers and waterfalls for cooling, irrigation and hydroelectric power plants to run millions of AC Units and build AC factories.
  - coldtea 3y ago
    >If people organise themselves, they can both survive and thrive in extreme conditions. Even just as isolated individuals. You mean like Siberia and Alaska are "thriving"?
    - carlosjobim 3y ago
      I've never been there, so I wouldn't know. They're doing pretty well from what I've heard. How about Norway? How about Ontario or Minnesota?
twelvechairs 3y ago
Generally areas of high humidity have low diurnal variation (its just as hot and wet at night as it is during the day), so unless you have A/C or similar, insulation/thermal mass will not do much as the heat and humidity will find its way in over time. Its hot-dry climates where it gets cool overnight where thermal mass is most important (the thermal mass warms up during the day and radiates heat at night, when outside cools down). In hot-wet climates, if you want passive comfort, your best bet is to make a big roof and then encourage cross-ventilation so the wind provides some cooling.
greedo 3y ago
Not really sure most will want to live like the folks in the Silo TV series.

coldtea 3y ago

>We can build passive structures to regulate peak temperatures - caves and windowless insulated boxes with high thermal mass, for instance. As long as the average temperatures (day and night) over a few days or a week are survivable, active cooling isn't strictly necessary. Survival is a consolation, but if we need to start living in caves and windowless insulated boxes, then those are not very reassuring news...

Gigachad 3y ago
But we managed to deliver a lot of value to shareholders before then.
- AtlasBarfed 3y ago
  Shareholders being about 100 billionaires
carlosjobim 3y ago
Make a visit to one of the cold-as-hell regions of the world and take a look at how traditional houses look. Window sizes, wall thickness. Look at the energy usage needed to survive the climate. If people organise themselves, they can both survive and thrive in extreme conditions. Even just as isolated individuals. Regions with high humidity and high temperatures also have huge rivers and waterfalls for cooling, irrigation and hydroelectric power plants to run millions of AC Units and build AC factories.
- coldtea 3y ago
  >If people organise themselves, they can both survive and thrive in extreme conditions. Even just as isolated individuals. You mean like Siberia and Alaska are "thriving"?
  - carlosjobim 3y ago
    I've never been there, so I wouldn't know. They're doing pretty well from what I've heard. How about Norway? How about Ontario or Minnesota?

twelvechairs 3y ago

Generally areas of high humidity have low diurnal variation (its just as hot and wet at night as it is during the day), so unless you have A/C or similar, insulation/thermal mass will not do much as the heat and humidity will find its way in over time. Its hot-dry climates where it gets cool overnight where thermal mass is most important (the thermal mass warms up during the day and radiates heat at night, when outside cools down). In hot-wet climates, if you want passive comfort, your best bet is to make a big roof and then encourage cross-ventilation so the wind provides some cooling.

greedo 3y ago

Not really sure most will want to live like the folks in the Silo TV series.