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Oscars 2024: Netflix Wins Just One Award and Apple Shut Out

15 points by isaacfrond 3y ago

oldpersonintx 3y ago
AppleTV and the associated original programming feels like a fail at this point, another attempt by Apple to throw money at markets they don't understand
- VeejayRampay 3y ago
  you're being a bit too harsh here, AppleTV has produced series such as For All Mankind, Severance, Pachinko, Ted Lasso, Foundation, Silo, I think they're doing OK so far, TV is hard
  - stuckkeys 3y ago
    Lasso and Foundation is pretty damn good.
    - okdood64 3y ago
      It's sad season 1 of Foundation was rough to get started. The latter half and season 2 are amazing.
      - theGnuMe 3y ago
        Can you watch season 2 first or standalone? I started s1e1 and haven't made it through it.
        okdood64 3y ago
        No. Power through 3-4 episodes. It gets much better.
    - haunter 3y ago
      >Foundation is pretty damn good As long as you didn't read the books
  - gruturo 3y ago
    Add Slow Horses to the list, it's great.
    - VeejayRampay 3y ago
      absolutely, it's actually up there with Severance as top tier from AppleTV
- vinay427 3y ago
  It does have TV in the name (Apple TV+), which the Oscars doesn’t cater for. Apple seems to be doing just fine (Ted Lasso, etc.) at the Emmys considering most of their originals are TV series AFAICT.
  - karmakaze 3y ago
    That's only to tie the service to the "Apple TV" hardware--(most) people still watch movies on their TVs at home.
- cmsj 3y ago
  As someone who doesn't understand the TV/Movie market, other than being an avid consumer of certain genres of their output, I'm curious what it is that Apple has misjudged with AppleTV+.
- ChicagoBoy11 3y ago
  They won best picture at the Academy award two years ago, and seem to have been focusing on TV content. And, for what it's worth, Killers of the Flower Moon was a terrific feature film in its own right, was nominated for many categories, but certainly did not merit the best picture not. I'd argue this is a bit of a harsh criticism for a studio that, for all intents and purposes, seems to be doing quite well!
suddenclarity 3y ago
I understand that people dislike Netflix (price hike, account sharing, political content) and want to draw conclusions based on this, but one should remember that these awards are still pay-to-play. It didn't disappear with Weinstein. A win probably says more about the people involved than the movie itself.
- fl7305 3y ago
  Did Netflix release anything in 2023 that should have won an Oscar?
openasocket 3y ago
The academy awards are so competitive it’s really hard to try and evaluate any trends from it. I’m not sure you can really draw any significant conclusions from it. For context, I’ve watched every Oscar-nominated movie after they get announced for the last five years. I’ve never felt that the production company was ever a significant factor in the ultimate winner. Who gets nominated in the first place, that’s a different story…

15 points by isaacfrond 3y ago

AppleTV and the associated original programming feels like a fail at this point, another attempt by Apple to throw money at markets they don't understand

VeejayRampay 3y ago
you're being a bit too harsh here, AppleTV has produced series such as For All Mankind, Severance, Pachinko, Ted Lasso, Foundation, Silo, I think they're doing OK so far, TV is hard
- stuckkeys 3y ago
  Lasso and Foundation is pretty damn good.
  - okdood64 3y ago
    It's sad season 1 of Foundation was rough to get started. The latter half and season 2 are amazing.
    - theGnuMe 3y ago
      Can you watch season 2 first or standalone? I started s1e1 and haven't made it through it.
      - okdood64 3y ago
        No. Power through 3-4 episodes. It gets much better.
  - haunter 3y ago
    >Foundation is pretty damn good As long as you didn't read the books
- gruturo 3y ago
  Add Slow Horses to the list, it's great.
  - VeejayRampay 3y ago
    absolutely, it's actually up there with Severance as top tier from AppleTV
vinay427 3y ago
It does have TV in the name (Apple TV+), which the Oscars doesn’t cater for. Apple seems to be doing just fine (Ted Lasso, etc.) at the Emmys considering most of their originals are TV series AFAICT.
- karmakaze 3y ago
  That's only to tie the service to the "Apple TV" hardware--(most) people still watch movies on their TVs at home.
cmsj 3y ago
As someone who doesn't understand the TV/Movie market, other than being an avid consumer of certain genres of their output, I'm curious what it is that Apple has misjudged with AppleTV+.
ChicagoBoy11 3y ago
They won best picture at the Academy award two years ago, and seem to have been focusing on TV content. And, for what it's worth, Killers of the Flower Moon was a terrific feature film in its own right, was nominated for many categories, but certainly did not merit the best picture not. I'd argue this is a bit of a harsh criticism for a studio that, for all intents and purposes, seems to be doing quite well!

suddenclarity 3y ago

I understand that people dislike Netflix (price hike, account sharing, political content) and want to draw conclusions based on this, but one should remember that these awards are still pay-to-play. It didn't disappear with Weinstein. A win probably says more about the people involved than the movie itself.

fl7305 3y ago
Did Netflix release anything in 2023 that should have won an Oscar?

openasocket 3y ago

The academy awards are so competitive it’s really hard to try and evaluate any trends from it. I’m not sure you can really draw any significant conclusions from it. For context, I’ve watched every Oscar-nominated movie after they get announced for the last five years. I’ve never felt that the production company was ever a significant factor in the ultimate winner. Who gets nominated in the first place, that’s a different story…