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This employee is an idiot and they deserved to be fired. Shouting down others is not speech - it’s censorship, even a company with broad internal speech protec
by homefree 3y ago
This employee is an idiot and they deserved to be fired.
Shouting down others is not speech - it’s censorship, even a company with broad internal speech protections/policy is likely to enforce discourse standards.
Google would be better off taking a hard stance here - their culture from the outside seems pretty messed up, they’re going to need to fire a lot more to fix it (starting with their CEO imo).
This is independent of the specific views the employee held, though I think those views in this case are also wrong and the company can (and arguably should) fire people who hold views in conflict with the mission, especially when they act to cause problems internally.
- howmayiannoyyou 3y ago[flagged]
- aaomidi 3y agoAnd so many people could say the same about you
- howmayiannoyyou 3y agoThey would be wrong: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svIa02N6JUo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svIa02N6JUo
- ParetoOptimal 3y agoI hope you both know its unclear which of you are arguing for/against Palestine in the above comments before clicking the video.
- aaomidi 3y agoI think that’s kinda the point I am trying to make.
- howmayiannoyyou 3y agoI'm neither for nor against. I want objective truth, not relativist pandering.
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- zenexer 3y agoAll you’re doing is antagonizing and soliciting a retaliatory response from anyone with a differing opinion. That doesn’t lead to intriguing, constructive debate and really doesn’t belong on HN.
- howmayiannoyyou 3y agoYou assume there is no objective fact and that having an opinion is enough. That is a faulty assumption. Our society suffers from a deficit of truth seeking and a surplus of confirmation bias & wishful thinking.
- jakupovic 3y ago[flagged]
- blastonico 3y ago[flagged]
- D13Fd 3y agoI was completely with you until this part: > I think . . . the company can (and arguably should) fire people who hold views in conflict with the mission Obviously, in the US, a company is allowed to fire employees for any non-prohibited reason or for no reason at all. But I strongly disagree that a company should fire people who hold views in conflict with the mission of the company. They should only fire them if they act on those views or otherwise do not work to support the company's mission. It's not a fine distinction. It's totally OK to hold your nose and work to support a mission that you don't necessarily personally agree with. I don't think that should be cause for termination.
- homefree 3y agoThat’s a fair critique and I don’t think I disagree.
- GaryNumanVevo 3y agoI agree, Google should fire everyone involved in the development of mass surveillance tools that are sold to the highest bidding government. It's immoral and highly unethical.