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Good that this is in the first page of a critical, based on factual data, and smart HN community. I am "agnostic" and ignorant in this topic but beyond complot

by wslh 3y ago

Good that this is in the first page of a critical, based on factual data, and smart HN community. I am "agnostic" and ignorant in this topic but beyond complot theories is there something substantial or interesting to look at related to possible alien visits? I am not asking on a pro UFO subreddit tough.

krapp 3y ago
I've always found the alien encounter/abduction phenomenon interesting as folklore and myth. Aliens are basically faeries and goblins for a post-industrial, technological zeitgeist. Unfortunately there's a lot of racist and antisemitic undertones behind a lot of it, particularly the reptilian and ancient astronaut stuff.
yungporko 3y ago
there isn't really any (publicly available) evidence at all supporting alien visits that i know of. i like to read the ufo theories and stuff for fun but generally even the extremely compelling ones start to fall apart when you dig deep enough into them. the one thing that is actual fact is that there have been numerous cases of reliable witnesses reporting unidentified objects doing weird stuff in the sky which haven't been explained, but that's probably a lot more likely to mean a million other things before it means aliens. personally i'm in the "alien life definitely exists but it probably hasn't been here" camp, but i've never seen a convincing debunk of the nimitz tic tac uap. again though, it's not evidence of alien visitors, it's just evidence that some people saw something weird.
- keepamovin 3y ago
  I guess it all depends on your priors. If 1000 witnesses came to you saying their personal witness testimony that they were raped by someone matching description X. And some of those witnesses corroborated events related by other witnesses. I can't say for sure for you specifically, but I guess you'd believe these witnesses. I'm even more certain that a court, and a jury would believe these 1000 witnesses. The priors help support that. But when 100,000 people come forward saying they saw a craft/ were abducted/saw an alien, it's still considered unlikely. The only difference is your priors. If the government confirmed NHI presence and activity on Earth tomorrow, your priors would likely be updated, and you'd re-evaluate your assessment of all that other witness testimony! :)

by wslh 3y ago

krapp 3y ago

I've always found the alien encounter/abduction phenomenon interesting as folklore and myth. Aliens are basically faeries and goblins for a post-industrial, technological zeitgeist. Unfortunately there's a lot of racist and antisemitic undertones behind a lot of it, particularly the reptilian and ancient astronaut stuff.

yungporko 3y ago

there isn't really any (publicly available) evidence at all supporting alien visits that i know of. i like to read the ufo theories and stuff for fun but generally even the extremely compelling ones start to fall apart when you dig deep enough into them. the one thing that is actual fact is that there have been numerous cases of reliable witnesses reporting unidentified objects doing weird stuff in the sky which haven't been explained, but that's probably a lot more likely to mean a million other things before it means aliens. personally i'm in the "alien life definitely exists but it probably hasn't been here" camp, but i've never seen a convincing debunk of the nimitz tic tac uap. again though, it's not evidence of alien visitors, it's just evidence that some people saw something weird.

keepamovin 3y ago
I guess it all depends on your priors. If 1000 witnesses came to you saying their personal witness testimony that they were raped by someone matching description X. And some of those witnesses corroborated events related by other witnesses. I can't say for sure for you specifically, but I guess you'd believe these witnesses. I'm even more certain that a court, and a jury would believe these 1000 witnesses. The priors help support that. But when 100,000 people come forward saying they saw a craft/ were abducted/saw an alien, it's still considered unlikely. The only difference is your priors. If the government confirmed NHI presence and activity on Earth tomorrow, your priors would likely be updated, and you'd re-evaluate your assessment of all that other witness testimony! :)