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You're just totally wrong on the facts. Hamas is not an Israeli creation. I don't know where you're getting that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hama
by YZF 3y ago
You're just totally wrong on the facts.
Hamas is not an Israeli creation. I don't know where you're getting that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hamas#The_founding_of_Hamas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hamas#The_founding_...
Hamas was not "initially funded by Israel". References?
Support for violence and Hamas amongst Palestinians is not "my narrative". It's truth supported by numerous surveys. If you want to get some color go look for the YouTube channel that interviews Palestinians on the street on topical questions over the last decade or so.
Hamas enjoys broad support and would get re-elected, that's why we didn't see any elections after 2006, because the PA would have lost to Hamas. Also the attack of Hamas on Oct 7th has broad support and previous to Oct 7th support for the use of violence against Israel was similarly broad.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/palestinian-poll-support-for-hamas-has-tripled-in-west-bank-88-want-abbas-to-resign/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/palestinian-pol...
"The polls shows 57% of respondents in Gaza and 82% in the West Bank believe Hamas was correct in launching its October 7 onslaught, in which some 1,200 people in Israel, mostly civilians, were murdered and over 240 were taken hostage. A large majority believes Hamas’s claims that it acted to “defend” the Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem and win the release of Palestinian security prisoners. Only 10% say they believed Hamas has committed war crimes, with a large majority saying they did not see videos showing the terrorists committing atrocities."
https://apnews.com/article/hamas-middle-east-science-32095d8e1323fc1cad819c34da08fd87 https://apnews.com/article/hamas-middle-east-science-32095d8...
"The poll found that 53% of Palestinians believe Hamas is “most deserving of representing and leading the Palestinian people,” while only 14% prefer Abbas’ secular Fatah party." (2021)
https://www.npr.org/2023/12/21/1217758546/hamas-support-palestinians-west-bank https://www.npr.org/2023/12/21/1217758546/hamas-support-pale...
I can give you 100's of more surveys over the last decade. It might be true that Hamas' support today in Gaza is waning given the circumstances but probably rising in the west bank. Palestinians were celebrating Oct 7th.
Hamas is active in the West Bank. You're also wrong about that. In fact the previous war in Gaza was a result of Hamas actions from the West Bank: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Gush_Etzion_kidnapping_and_murder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Gush_Etzion_kidnapping_an...
Anyways we are talking about Gaza, how did this get to the West Bank? Your statements about the west bank are also wrong. Israel demolishes houses of terrorists that murder Israeli civilians. That's pretty much the only "routinely destroys homes" I can think of. Israel doesn't arrest children and put them in inhuman(e?) detention camps, where do you get that stuff?
Israel isn't perfect by any means, but the bad guys in this story are the Palestinians. There's no excuse for things like suicide bombers blowing up busses, malls, and restaurants. There's no excuse of Oct 7th. They chose indiscriminate violence as their way of settling the conflict and refused any peaceful attempts to settle it. You're the one that needs to wake up and at the very least learn the facts of this conflict before you make up your mind. EDIT: Also no excuse to firing 10's of thousands of rockets and mortars into Israeli population centers. All these things are war crimes and crimes against humanity. Israel's actions as a whole are not.