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This is one of those monumental strategic decisions that with the benefit of hindsight seems obvious. No charging infrastructure means no EV market (simplifying
by JSR_FDED 3y ago
This is one of those monumental strategic decisions that with the benefit of hindsight seems obvious. No charging infrastructure means no EV market (simplifying).
Boeing and Airbus had a similar situation - increasing passenger numbers to Airbus meant “we need to build giant planes like the A380” (now essentially dead). To Boeing it meant “we better build planes that can service smaller airports because they’ll become increasingly important”.
Mind boggling how the wrong interpretation of the market situation leads to decade-defining trajectories for companies.
- reducesuffering 3y ago> No charging infrastructure Quite the hyperbole https://www.tesla.com/findus?v=2&bounds=57.17077853489991%2C-41.961915250000004%2C17.159647255843748%2C-156.57129025&zoom=5&filters=store%2Cservice%2Csupercharger%2Cdestination%20charger%2Cbodyshop%2Cparty%2Cself%20serve%20demo%20drive%2Cnacs https://www.tesla.com/findus?v=2&bounds=57.17077853489991%2C...
- nixass 3y agoNow do the map with petrol stations
- reducesuffering 3y agoI never said it was equal. But it’s plenty to make cross country trips 5 years ago and it’s a correction to the ludicrous claim of “no charging infrastructure”
- TheLoafOfBread 3y agoNow let's do any non-tesla charging network - Far and few between, ones that exist usually require stupid applications to even start talking to you, if they are not outright broken.
- Salgat 3y agoTesla started the Supercharger network over a decade ago as a rather small company. A non-tesla charging network is absolutely feasible if automakers would agree on a standard and make a coordinated effort to build one.
- TheLoafOfBread 3y agoYeah there is a standard, CCS2, does it matter when station are broken, need stupid applications with unique credentials and sometimes does not even want to charge because some incompatibility issue?
- reducesuffering 3y agoDue to NACS these cars will be compatible within the year: Audi, BMW, Ford, GM, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, Mercedes, Nissan, Rivian, should I go on?
- TheLoafOfBread 3y agoAnd superchargers are already struggling just with Teslas charging, because there is not enough of them. So my point stands.
- Corrado 3y agoI'm not sure where you have been Supercharging but I just finished a 1,000 mile trip in my MX and never had a problem. In fact there was plenty of slots available every time I stopped to charge. I think this fear of hoards of non-Tesla cars stuffing up the Superchargers is way over hyped. Plus, they are continually building more and more charging locations. Finally, my car is really good at rerouting to a different Supercharger if one is busy or scheduled to be busy. So far, the fears haven't come true.
- adrianN 3y agoThere is a large number of people who park in their own garage over night and can simply plug in there.
- tbrownaw 3y agoTwo superchargers and a half dozen "destination charging" spots in my entire local city+suburbs metro area seems entirely consistent with what you're replying to.