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I can't even begin to take you seriously when you're arguing on behalf of the group who heckles their own political candidates because they believe in driver's

I can't even begin to take you seriously when you're arguing on behalf of the group who heckles their own political candidates because they believe in driver's licensing requirements. https://youtu.be/ZITP93pqtdQ https://youtu.be/ZITP93pqtdQ

AnthonyMouse 3y ago
The US has "driver's licensing requirements" that are basically pro-forma. Any idiot can pass the test, more than 90% of adults have a driver's license and renewals don't even require a retest, implying that they're just an excuse to stick you for a fee. It's the sort of thing that seems like it would serve some important function and then you try to imagine what would change if they didn't exist and it's hard to come up with anything serious. Meanwhile it's a cause to charge you with a crime even if you harmed no one in any way, which is exactly the sort of thing that libertarians oppose, so it's entirely consistent that the audience would oppose it.
- bastawhiz 3y ago
  You sound like exactly the sort of person who would be pissed to pay more for an Uber because you had a disability.
  - AnthonyMouse 3y ago
    Do you have a constructive argument?
m0llusk 3y ago
You are claiming that absurd conflicts within a political party mean it cannot be taken seriously, but the Democrats have the "blue dog" faction and a prominent representative who recently proposed a fifty dollar an hour minimum wage law and the Republicans stretch from Romney to the colorful current party leadership. If you were really thinking about whether or not to take Libertarians seriously then you might take some lessons from the book The Righteous Mind that points out moral axes and notes that liberals tend to focus on care and harm, conservatives focus most on fairness and cheating, and libertarians with their focus on liberty are just behind both of those. It might also be interesting to consider the content of Libertarian meetings which are often dominated by discussion of cannabis legalization, right to repair, and arguments for a universal basic income.
- bastawhiz 3y ago
  So many words to say "I think handicapped people should pay more for an Uber"
  - m0llusk 3y ago
    You misunderstood. I'm just trying to express the realities of Libertarian leaning politics. In this particular case I don't have a strong opinion and it isn't clear what options would most enhance the liberty of the general public. Uber has made an impact, but so far the business continues to lose vast amounts of money while disrupting similar options. How we might best structure this transportation sector seems to be an open question whether one is trying to optimize for liberty or efficiency or whatever else.

AnthonyMouse 3y ago

The US has "driver's licensing requirements" that are basically pro-forma. Any idiot can pass the test, more than 90% of adults have a driver's license and renewals don't even require a retest, implying that they're just an excuse to stick you for a fee. It's the sort of thing that seems like it would serve some important function and then you try to imagine what would change if they didn't exist and it's hard to come up with anything serious. Meanwhile it's a cause to charge you with a crime even if you harmed no one in any way, which is exactly the sort of thing that libertarians oppose, so it's entirely consistent that the audience would oppose it.

bastawhiz 3y ago
You sound like exactly the sort of person who would be pissed to pay more for an Uber because you had a disability.
- AnthonyMouse 3y ago
  Do you have a constructive argument?

m0llusk 3y ago

You are claiming that absurd conflicts within a political party mean it cannot be taken seriously, but the Democrats have the "blue dog" faction and a prominent representative who recently proposed a fifty dollar an hour minimum wage law and the Republicans stretch from Romney to the colorful current party leadership. If you were really thinking about whether or not to take Libertarians seriously then you might take some lessons from the book The Righteous Mind that points out moral axes and notes that liberals tend to focus on care and harm, conservatives focus most on fairness and cheating, and libertarians with their focus on liberty are just behind both of those. It might also be interesting to consider the content of Libertarian meetings which are often dominated by discussion of cannabis legalization, right to repair, and arguments for a universal basic income.

bastawhiz 3y ago
So many words to say "I think handicapped people should pay more for an Uber"
- m0llusk 3y ago
  You misunderstood. I'm just trying to express the realities of Libertarian leaning politics. In this particular case I don't have a strong opinion and it isn't clear what options would most enhance the liberty of the general public. Uber has made an impact, but so far the business continues to lose vast amounts of money while disrupting similar options. How we might best structure this transportation sector seems to be an open question whether one is trying to optimize for liberty or efficiency or whatever else.