> Human rights. Particularly freedom of speech. Neither human rights and especially freedom of speech was a product of 'liberal freedom loving democracies'. >

> Human rights. Particularly freedom of speech. Neither human rights and especially freedom of speech was a product of 'liberal freedom loving democracies'. > That torch passed to the USA in the last century. America is a european nation. Founded by europeans and populated by europeans. > But to confuse that with the defeat of Nazism and Fascism in a world war in which 80-100 million people died shows an astonishingly poor grasp of history and politics. You forget most americans didn't want to defeat 'the nazis' or 'fascism'. Like every war we got involved in, it was against the will of the people. Besides, nazism and fascism was defeated by bigger nazis and bigger fascists. No serious person thinks the US, british empire or soviet union were any better than germany, italy and japan.