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While $3000 sounds like a lot, quickly googling for "F150 rooftop tent" returned many results for over $3K. That a first-party product on a high-end vehicle wi

by agar 3y ago

While $3000 sounds like a lot, quickly googling for "F150 rooftop tent" returned many results for over $3K. That a first-party product on a high-end vehicle with a tiny market share costs around the same as aftermarket products for the most popular truck on the market makes the price seem less ridiculous than headlines make it appear. However, I'm not deeply enmeshed in truck culture. I'm sure many folks can weigh in with (hopefully) nuanced takes on the price/value equation.

maxerickson 3y ago
It's a bed tent, not a rooftop tent.
- agar 3y ago
  The original poster specifically compares it to a roof tent. Obviously since the Cybertruck has no normal roof, the definition is strained here. However, from what I've seen "bed tents" have you sleeping on the bed. This product has a raised frame that performs similarly to a roof tent (given the CT's angled design); allowing you to store equipment in the bed when the tent is up or down. See image here: https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2024/03/IMG_6092.jpeg?resize=1536,2048 https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2024/03/IMG_6...
  - cogman10 3y ago
    And you really think this aluminum raised frame is worth $2500? The only reason this is compared to a roof tent is because that's the most expensive vehicle tent on the market. However, at the end of the day we are talking about an aluminum frame and some uninsulated canvas. A quick Google shows you can get an "elevated to roof level" rack for $1400. So this is a $1600 tent? No matter how you slice this, it's a rip off.
    - agar 3y ago
      As I said in my OP, I'm not well versed in this market - so I don't know what it's worth. But people keep replying with factually inaccurate information and that's frustrating. Do I personally think it's worth $2,975? No. But I'm not in the market for one. Honestly almost everything in the automotive aftermarket seems like a rip off to me, so it's hard to be objective. Your example of $1,400 for an "elevated to roof level" rack sounds like a rip off. Yeah, if 8 pieces of welded aluminum cost $1,400 then maybe $1,600 for custom-sized low volume tent is about right. Ford sells folding tonneau covers for $1,100. A tow hitch for a Lexus GX is $330. This is all extortionate. But millions in this market continue to pay the costs and find the value is worth it. Can you find something cheaper on Amazon? Of course. But in the first-party world of $300 tow hitches and $1,100 pieces of hinged plastic, is $3K a lot? I don't know. The original reviewer says, "I think that much of the thoughtful and unique design elements might warrant the cost: it’s fairly lightweight + easy to install/remove the stowed tent from the truck, stays out of the way (unless you want to transport multiple bikes in the bed), doesn’t reduce range due to decreased aerodynamics, and has intuitive pieces that make setup + takedown a breeze." Of course this was omitted from Elektrek's copy/paste of the original review. But I don't think the discussion is really about the appropriate cost for the Basecamp, which is what I'm really interested in. I'm reading a lot more emotion in this comment section than seems warranted for a tent.
      - cogman10 3y ago
        > But people keep replying with factually inaccurate information and that's frustrating. What did I say that's factually inaccurate? > I'm reading a lot more emotion in this comment section than seems warranted for a tent. I'm sorry, what? I simply stated how much an elevated platform costs and you are reading a lot of emotion into that? Look at how much you just wrote that could have been summed up as > Do I personally think it's worth $2,975? No. Ok, so then why are you spending so much time and effort trying to sell this and justify the price tag? I agree, the market is irrational and the ultimate proof of this product's worth is if people will buy it. That, however, isn't a question you are I can answer at this time. The best we can do is come up with our best equivalent examples and subjective opinions "is this worth it". Which you and I both agree "no". > But I don't think the discussion is really about the appropriate cost for the Basecamp, which is what I'm really interested in. Does not seem like you care much about cost. Instead, I see a bunch of accusations in your response about the motives of people responding to you. Perhaps some self reflection is in order.
cyanydeez 3y ago
cost is probably minor. "how it was sold" is becoming a Musk signature bullshit refrain. anyone taking his sales pitches as anything other than hype and confabulation is willingly drinking capitalist koolaid
SkyPuncher 3y ago
As someone in the market for a truck tent/camper, the $3k options typically provide (1) a hard shell case (2) quick, easy setup and tear down - packing into the hard shell easily (3) are able to remain mounted during travel. This looks like a tent that you have to entirely pull off to travel.
- pests 3y ago
  ‘[...] 6 brackets that attach to the vault’s side rails and have specific spacing [...] and aligning the two T25 bolts that secure Basecamp’s frame to the truck. [...] Once you remove those two T25 bolts, you can take the zipped up Basecamp with frame out of the truck and store it at home. This is welcome news because it definitely cuts into the length of your bed/vault (a bit more than 1/3 closest to the cab of the truck) [...]’
- agar 3y ago
  According to the far better original review (found here [1]), this appears to have (1) a soft shell case; (2) easy setup (inflatable no-pole upper, hard bottom frame, fold-out design), but fussy tear down; and (3) can remain mounted during travel[2] [1] https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/basecamp-tent-first-review-%E2%9B%BA%EF%B8%8E-updated-w-awning-photos.12964/ https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/basecamp-... [2] https://digitalassets-shop.tesla.com/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/content/dam/tesla/CAR_ACCESSORIES/CYBERTRUCK/EXTERIOR/1948406-00-A-04.png https://digitalassets-shop.tesla.com/image/upload/f_auto,q_a...
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neilv 3y ago
Tesla Cybertruck owners who're pinching pennies can adapt this $114 tent. https://www.lowes.com/pd/VEVOR-Truck-Bed-Tent-6-4-6-7-Ft-Pu2000-Waterproof-with-Rainfly-Carry-Bag-For-Camping/5014551803 https://www.lowes.com/pd/VEVOR-Truck-Bed-Tent-6-4-6-7-Ft-Pu2...
- Underphil 3y ago
  I've been on this planet for 44 years now and I'm sure this is the first time I've ever seen anyone abbreviate "who are".
  - redundantly 3y ago
    That's nice. I've seen and heard it loads of times. Different strokes...
  - hoistbypetard 3y ago
    Maybe it’s a regional thing? I see that regularly, and I’m a similar age.
  - neilv 3y ago
    Maybe the "who're" in my brain was activated by the $61K rusty pickup truck?
demondemidi 3y ago
There’s a lot prepper chic overpriced identity accessories flying off the shelves and on to urban assault vehicles. It’s just like Barbie toys for jabronis.
- mlrtime 3y ago
  Ohh so edgy, word salad making fun of others' hobbies. I'm the biggest computer nerd out there, but I'm glad others have hobbies not like mine.
  - demondemidi 3y ago
    I'm certainly the least edgy person in the world. If you were a calm cool nerd, you'd just think less of me and move on. But something made you stop to defend a random stereotype. I can only assume you are one of the people I referred to, or you feel a need to defend them for some strange reason? It's not like they are an oppressed minority if they can afford $100,000 in offroad theater.
mlrtime 3y ago
Likewise a Porsche tint is around $6000 https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/skutent.html https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/skutent.html The CEO camped out in one https://www.motor1.com/news/673573/porsche-ceo-camped-roof-tent-911-le-mans/ https://www.motor1.com/news/673573/porsche-ceo-camped-roof-t...

by agar 3y ago

maxerickson 3y ago

It's a bed tent, not a rooftop tent.

agar 3y ago
The original poster specifically compares it to a roof tent. Obviously since the Cybertruck has no normal roof, the definition is strained here. However, from what I've seen "bed tents" have you sleeping on the bed. This product has a raised frame that performs similarly to a roof tent (given the CT's angled design); allowing you to store equipment in the bed when the tent is up or down. See image here: https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2024/03/IMG_6092.jpeg?resize=1536,2048 https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2024/03/IMG_6...
- cogman10 3y ago
  And you really think this aluminum raised frame is worth $2500? The only reason this is compared to a roof tent is because that's the most expensive vehicle tent on the market. However, at the end of the day we are talking about an aluminum frame and some uninsulated canvas. A quick Google shows you can get an "elevated to roof level" rack for $1400. So this is a $1600 tent? No matter how you slice this, it's a rip off.
  - agar 3y ago
    As I said in my OP, I'm not well versed in this market - so I don't know what it's worth. But people keep replying with factually inaccurate information and that's frustrating. Do I personally think it's worth $2,975? No. But I'm not in the market for one. Honestly almost everything in the automotive aftermarket seems like a rip off to me, so it's hard to be objective. Your example of $1,400 for an "elevated to roof level" rack sounds like a rip off. Yeah, if 8 pieces of welded aluminum cost $1,400 then maybe $1,600 for custom-sized low volume tent is about right. Ford sells folding tonneau covers for $1,100. A tow hitch for a Lexus GX is $330. This is all extortionate. But millions in this market continue to pay the costs and find the value is worth it. Can you find something cheaper on Amazon? Of course. But in the first-party world of $300 tow hitches and $1,100 pieces of hinged plastic, is $3K a lot? I don't know. The original reviewer says, "I think that much of the thoughtful and unique design elements might warrant the cost: it’s fairly lightweight + easy to install/remove the stowed tent from the truck, stays out of the way (unless you want to transport multiple bikes in the bed), doesn’t reduce range due to decreased aerodynamics, and has intuitive pieces that make setup + takedown a breeze." Of course this was omitted from Elektrek's copy/paste of the original review. But I don't think the discussion is really about the appropriate cost for the Basecamp, which is what I'm really interested in. I'm reading a lot more emotion in this comment section than seems warranted for a tent.
    - cogman10 3y ago
      > But people keep replying with factually inaccurate information and that's frustrating. What did I say that's factually inaccurate? > I'm reading a lot more emotion in this comment section than seems warranted for a tent. I'm sorry, what? I simply stated how much an elevated platform costs and you are reading a lot of emotion into that? Look at how much you just wrote that could have been summed up as > Do I personally think it's worth $2,975? No. Ok, so then why are you spending so much time and effort trying to sell this and justify the price tag? I agree, the market is irrational and the ultimate proof of this product's worth is if people will buy it. That, however, isn't a question you are I can answer at this time. The best we can do is come up with our best equivalent examples and subjective opinions "is this worth it". Which you and I both agree "no". > But I don't think the discussion is really about the appropriate cost for the Basecamp, which is what I'm really interested in. Does not seem like you care much about cost. Instead, I see a bunch of accusations in your response about the motives of people responding to you. Perhaps some self reflection is in order.

cyanydeez 3y ago

cost is probably minor. "how it was sold" is becoming a Musk signature bullshit refrain. anyone taking his sales pitches as anything other than hype and confabulation is willingly drinking capitalist koolaid

SkyPuncher 3y ago

As someone in the market for a truck tent/camper, the $3k options typically provide (1) a hard shell case (2) quick, easy setup and tear down - packing into the hard shell easily (3) are able to remain mounted during travel. This looks like a tent that you have to entirely pull off to travel.

pests 3y ago
‘[...] 6 brackets that attach to the vault’s side rails and have specific spacing [...] and aligning the two T25 bolts that secure Basecamp’s frame to the truck. [...] Once you remove those two T25 bolts, you can take the zipped up Basecamp with frame out of the truck and store it at home. This is welcome news because it definitely cuts into the length of your bed/vault (a bit more than 1/3 closest to the cab of the truck) [...]’
agar 3y ago
According to the far better original review (found here [1]), this appears to have (1) a soft shell case; (2) easy setup (inflatable no-pole upper, hard bottom frame, fold-out design), but fussy tear down; and (3) can remain mounted during travel[2] [1] https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/basecamp-tent-first-review-%E2%9B%BA%EF%B8%8E-updated-w-awning-photos.12964/ https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/basecamp-... [2] https://digitalassets-shop.tesla.com/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/content/dam/tesla/CAR_ACCESSORIES/CYBERTRUCK/EXTERIOR/1948406-00-A-04.png https://digitalassets-shop.tesla.com/image/upload/f_auto,q_a...
- deleted 3y ago
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neilv 3y ago

Tesla Cybertruck owners who're pinching pennies can adapt this $114 tent. https://www.lowes.com/pd/VEVOR-Truck-Bed-Tent-6-4-6-7-Ft-Pu2000-Waterproof-with-Rainfly-Carry-Bag-For-Camping/5014551803 https://www.lowes.com/pd/VEVOR-Truck-Bed-Tent-6-4-6-7-Ft-Pu2...

Underphil 3y ago
I've been on this planet for 44 years now and I'm sure this is the first time I've ever seen anyone abbreviate "who are".
- redundantly 3y ago
  That's nice. I've seen and heard it loads of times. Different strokes...
- hoistbypetard 3y ago
  Maybe it’s a regional thing? I see that regularly, and I’m a similar age.
- neilv 3y ago
  Maybe the "who're" in my brain was activated by the $61K rusty pickup truck?

demondemidi 3y ago

There’s a lot prepper chic overpriced identity accessories flying off the shelves and on to urban assault vehicles. It’s just like Barbie toys for jabronis.

mlrtime 3y ago
Ohh so edgy, word salad making fun of others' hobbies. I'm the biggest computer nerd out there, but I'm glad others have hobbies not like mine.
- demondemidi 3y ago
  I'm certainly the least edgy person in the world. If you were a calm cool nerd, you'd just think less of me and move on. But something made you stop to defend a random stereotype. I can only assume you are one of the people I referred to, or you feel a need to defend them for some strange reason? It's not like they are an oppressed minority if they can afford $100,000 in offroad theater.

mlrtime 3y ago

Likewise a Porsche tint is around $6000 https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/skutent.html https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/skutent.html The CEO camped out in one https://www.motor1.com/news/673573/porsche-ceo-camped-roof-tent-911-le-mans/ https://www.motor1.com/news/673573/porsche-ceo-camped-roof-t...