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How is this not just racist behavior? An Israeli presenter who is based in Israel is being protested. Was there any connection beyond that to the war?

unstyledcontent 3y ago
I don't know the opinions of this particular speaker but my feelings towards the actions of the Israeli government make me opposed to any business relationship with that country until they end their genocide against Gaza.
- colechristensen 3y ago
  Then don't work at Google or plenty of other large companies who have offices in Israel and do business with Israel. I'm not saying your opinion is wrong, you do you.
themgt 3y ago
It says he was protesting Project Nimbus which is Google cloud/AI for the Israeli government and military. You can also see the conference he was attending itself hardly shies away from the political/military connections, e.g. “The Israeli tech ecosystem is built on very strong foundations. We have the academia, we have the manpower, and we have the special military units,” said Dina Pasca-Raz, Partner and Head of Technology at KPMG Israel. “There are many, many areas of strength [0] Israel's ambassador to the UN also gave an extremely emphatic "no ceasefire" speech at this totally apolitical Google-sponsored tech conference with no connection to the war.[1] [0] https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/sjlvv676t https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/sjlvv676t [1] https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/ryymzd7a6 https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/ryymzd7a6
- colechristensen 3y ago
  My questions weren't just rhetorical, there is nothing in the posted article about the political connection of the meeting / conference that was disrupted.
  - themgt 3y ago
    Cloud computing and AI technology is at the heart of the modern battlefield. Let's say it was a speech by the Google Palestine director in charge of selling cloud computing and AI technology to the military wing of Hamas, at a conference where a Hamas spokesman was also giving a speech. Would you also consider there to be no political connection there?
    - colechristensen 3y ago
      If you support the Palestinian peoples and the cause for peace or one of the various proposed solutions for long term peace, there’s no problem. Debate and differing opinions are expected. Hamas though is a terrorist organization. Internationally recognized as such almost universally. They started this war with rape, murder, and kidnapping of innocent civilians. If you do business with them you’re breaking the law. If you give voice to them or publicly support them you are an enemy not only of your own country, but of peace and good sense. I have nothing but the harshist judgement for someone openly claiming to support Hamas. If I found out my company had relations with Hamas I wouldn’t protest, quit, or cause a scene, I’d call the FBI. That is not a political issue, it is a serious legal and moral issue.
      - C6JEsQeQa5fCjE 3y ago
        > Hamas though is a terrorist organization. Internationally recognized as such almost universally. I have to correct you on the latter because these details matter. According to the Wikipedia page about it [0], it is designated as a terrorist group by Israel, USA and the 5 eyes, the European Union organization, Japan, Argentina and Paraguay. That is essentially Israel, USA and countries that are under direct American influence through NATO, which is far from "almost universally", and really is a smaller fraction of countries in the United Nations. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas
        google234123 3y ago
        Egypt sentenced their president to death for cooperation with Hamas at one point… Sending a bunch of people to rape, burn, and mirder civilians sounds like terroism to me.

unstyledcontent 3y ago

I don't know the opinions of this particular speaker but my feelings towards the actions of the Israeli government make me opposed to any business relationship with that country until they end their genocide against Gaza.

colechristensen 3y ago
Then don't work at Google or plenty of other large companies who have offices in Israel and do business with Israel. I'm not saying your opinion is wrong, you do you.

themgt 3y ago

It says he was protesting Project Nimbus which is Google cloud/AI for the Israeli government and military. You can also see the conference he was attending itself hardly shies away from the political/military connections, e.g. “The Israeli tech ecosystem is built on very strong foundations. We have the academia, we have the manpower, and we have the special military units,” said Dina Pasca-Raz, Partner and Head of Technology at KPMG Israel. “There are many, many areas of strength [0] Israel's ambassador to the UN also gave an extremely emphatic "no ceasefire" speech at this totally apolitical Google-sponsored tech conference with no connection to the war.[1] [0] https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/sjlvv676t https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/sjlvv676t [1] https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/ryymzd7a6 https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/ryymzd7a6

colechristensen 3y ago
My questions weren't just rhetorical, there is nothing in the posted article about the political connection of the meeting / conference that was disrupted.
- themgt 3y ago
  Cloud computing and AI technology is at the heart of the modern battlefield. Let's say it was a speech by the Google Palestine director in charge of selling cloud computing and AI technology to the military wing of Hamas, at a conference where a Hamas spokesman was also giving a speech. Would you also consider there to be no political connection there?
  - colechristensen 3y ago
    If you support the Palestinian peoples and the cause for peace or one of the various proposed solutions for long term peace, there’s no problem. Debate and differing opinions are expected. Hamas though is a terrorist organization. Internationally recognized as such almost universally. They started this war with rape, murder, and kidnapping of innocent civilians. If you do business with them you’re breaking the law. If you give voice to them or publicly support them you are an enemy not only of your own country, but of peace and good sense. I have nothing but the harshist judgement for someone openly claiming to support Hamas. If I found out my company had relations with Hamas I wouldn’t protest, quit, or cause a scene, I’d call the FBI. That is not a political issue, it is a serious legal and moral issue.
    - C6JEsQeQa5fCjE 3y ago
      > Hamas though is a terrorist organization. Internationally recognized as such almost universally. I have to correct you on the latter because these details matter. According to the Wikipedia page about it [0], it is designated as a terrorist group by Israel, USA and the 5 eyes, the European Union organization, Japan, Argentina and Paraguay. That is essentially Israel, USA and countries that are under direct American influence through NATO, which is far from "almost universally", and really is a smaller fraction of countries in the United Nations. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas
      - google234123 3y ago
        Egypt sentenced their president to death for cooperation with Hamas at one point… Sending a bunch of people to rape, burn, and mirder civilians sounds like terroism to me.