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> Or, TikTok has been banned in India since 202 Exactly. I'm surprised that tiktok has been able to maintain its top spot for so long. The biggest headscratch

> Or, TikTok has been banned in India since 202 Exactly. I'm surprised that tiktok has been able to maintain its top spot for so long. The biggest headscratcher is why india didn't ban facebook, instagram, youtube, etc along with tiktok. My hope was india would build up their own tech giants. Instead india just handed their social media environment to zuckerburg. What's the long term plan there? Give zuckerburg's properties ( facebook, instagram, whatsapp, etc ) monopoly over india? Are there any competent leaders in india? I simply don't get it.

alephnerd 3y ago
> why india didn't ban facebook, instagram, youtube, etc Has India almost went to war with the US in the last 5 years? No. Has India almost went to war with China in the last 5 years? Yes. That's why. Before 2020, Chinese firms were trying to expand into India as their ideal target market. In retaliation for Galwan, they got kicked out. > would build up their own tech giants Why? How many global software giants can you name from Israel, Japan, or South Korea (let alone the entire EU)? The biggest reason that countries like Israel were able to rapidly develop was because of the soft power of being so integrated in the American tech industry. IP driven industries like ICT, Pharmaecuticals, Semiconductors, and Finance represent 33% of Indian exports [0] but 10% of China's [1], and India's entire R&D capacity was built by western private sector companies like IBM, GE, TI, Intel, Nvidia, Apple, etc. Kicking them out is economic and research suicide for India. > I'm surprised that tiktok has been able to maintain its top spot for so long Because every other country uses it because it's so popular. [Is it just me or has HN gotten dumber recently?] [0] - https://atlas.cid.harvard.edu/countries/104/export-basket https://atlas.cid.harvard.edu/countries/104/export-basket [1] - https://atlas.cid.harvard.edu/countries/43/export-basket https://atlas.cid.harvard.edu/countries/43/export-basket
- simpletone 3y ago
  > Has India almost went to war with the US in the last 5 years? No. No. The US threatened nuclear war with india in the last 30 years though. https://thediplomat.com/2018/05/looking-back-the-1998-nuclear-wake-up-call-for-us-india-ties/ https://thediplomat.com/2018/05/looking-back-the-1998-nuclea... > That's why. If that was the case, then india would have stopped trade with china. China is still one of india's top trading partners. And one of its biggest investors. > they got kicked out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_trading_partners_of_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_trading_partne... > Why? Why ban tiktok? It's a national security issue. And india has the talent, population and resources to do so. > How many global software giants can you name from Israel, Japan, or South Korea (let alone the entire EU)? Surely you are smart enough to see the difference between israel, japan or south korea and india? I'm also a big proponent of the EU banning american tech and building up their own tech. The EU built up airbus, why can't they do the same for facebook, microsoft, etc? > The biggest reason that countries like Israel were able to rapidly develop was because of the soft power of being so integrated in the American tech industry. What does israel have to do with india? Are you saying india should be a vassal to the US like israel, japan and south korea are? You surely must be joking. India should be a regional power like china, russia and hopefully the EU. It shouldn't be anything like israel, korea or japan. Given its size and history, don't you think india should set its sights a little bit higher?

alephnerd 3y ago

> why india didn't ban facebook, instagram, youtube, etc Has India almost went to war with the US in the last 5 years? No. Has India almost went to war with China in the last 5 years? Yes. That's why. Before 2020, Chinese firms were trying to expand into India as their ideal target market. In retaliation for Galwan, they got kicked out. > would build up their own tech giants Why? How many global software giants can you name from Israel, Japan, or South Korea (let alone the entire EU)? The biggest reason that countries like Israel were able to rapidly develop was because of the soft power of being so integrated in the American tech industry. IP driven industries like ICT, Pharmaecuticals, Semiconductors, and Finance represent 33% of Indian exports [0] but 10% of China's [1], and India's entire R&D capacity was built by western private sector companies like IBM, GE, TI, Intel, Nvidia, Apple, etc. Kicking them out is economic and research suicide for India. > I'm surprised that tiktok has been able to maintain its top spot for so long Because every other country uses it because it's so popular. [Is it just me or has HN gotten dumber recently?] [0] - https://atlas.cid.harvard.edu/countries/104/export-basket https://atlas.cid.harvard.edu/countries/104/export-basket [1] - https://atlas.cid.harvard.edu/countries/43/export-basket https://atlas.cid.harvard.edu/countries/43/export-basket

simpletone 3y ago
> Has India almost went to war with the US in the last 5 years? No. No. The US threatened nuclear war with india in the last 30 years though. https://thediplomat.com/2018/05/looking-back-the-1998-nuclear-wake-up-call-for-us-india-ties/ https://thediplomat.com/2018/05/looking-back-the-1998-nuclea... > That's why. If that was the case, then india would have stopped trade with china. China is still one of india's top trading partners. And one of its biggest investors. > they got kicked out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_trading_partners_of_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_trading_partne... > Why? Why ban tiktok? It's a national security issue. And india has the talent, population and resources to do so. > How many global software giants can you name from Israel, Japan, or South Korea (let alone the entire EU)? Surely you are smart enough to see the difference between israel, japan or south korea and india? I'm also a big proponent of the EU banning american tech and building up their own tech. The EU built up airbus, why can't they do the same for facebook, microsoft, etc? > The biggest reason that countries like Israel were able to rapidly develop was because of the soft power of being so integrated in the American tech industry. What does israel have to do with india? Are you saying india should be a vassal to the US like israel, japan and south korea are? You surely must be joking. India should be a regional power like china, russia and hopefully the EU. It shouldn't be anything like israel, korea or japan. Given its size and history, don't you think india should set its sights a little bit higher?