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>Derailment is a purely rhetorical technique, so I'm not seeing the problem. The problem is you made an appeal to authority to "derailing for dummies"... >It'
by s_baby 14y ago
>Derailment is a purely rhetorical technique, so I'm not seeing the problem.
The problem is you made an appeal to authority to "derailing for dummies"...
>It's to devalue the given examples of sexist behavior so that the privileged person can avoid confronting their privilege.
Half of those points could be made by someone who has no intention of derailing. They can be legitimate observations.
- wpietri 14y agoNo. I personally am calling that a common derailing tactic; I just linked to that as evidence that other people also see it as a problem. If you have some counter-evidence, feel free to present it. As I explained elsewhere in this thread, most people don't intend to derail. What matters isn't the conscious intent of the speaker; it's the effect on the conversation. That X is a legitimate observation doesn't mean that X is also a valid contribution at any point in any discussion. Watch politicians spin something on a TV show. They can make valid observations all day long that avoid, obfuscate, dodge, color, distract, mislead, and misinform. If a privileged person jumps into a discussion about injustice in a way that changes the topic from the injustice under discussion to something more comfortable for them, that's derailing. They can do that using a valid observation, an invalid observation, a rhetorical device, or a jack-in-the-box. Also, Mr. Brand New Anonymous Account: if you aren't going to own your words, expect me to stop responding shortly.