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"The reason for their quick growth is that they are new and that's enough at the moment. But not in the long run." Gero Neugebauer Political scientist, Free Uni

"The reason for their quick growth is that they are new and that's enough at the moment. But not in the long run." Gero Neugebauer Political scientist, Free University Berlin So what? To paraphrase Keynes, in the long run we are all dead. I really dislike such dismissal without some sort of context such as whether a short term gain might or might not have any effect and why. But then again the journalist only wanted a contrary quote for 'balance'.

soc88 14y ago
The fun thing is that “they are new” now lasts for almost 6 years. How long will we have to wait for the “long run” now, considering that exactly the same thing was said 6 years ago? :-)
- forgetmyid 14y ago
  Indeed. I also expect they will have the usual turbulence of a new political movement. Infighting, policy changes, etc and that all of that will be used to again dismiss the larger reason for their existence.
- netrus 14y ago
  They ride the "we are new" horse themselves, to explain their lack of expertise and knowledge in many pressing political issues. They are a new party, so people will look over some gaps, but this cannot last forever (maybe not even until the federal election next year).
NameNickHN 14y ago
This is one scientist's opinion and as we know there are as many opinions as there are scientists. Probably more. Roughly a generation after the Second Worldwar the Green Party was founded and there to stay. After another generation the Pirate Party movement comes to live. Seems to me that each generation is - at some point - fed up enough with their elders to band together against them.
stesch 14y ago
Journalists (and political scientist) don't quite understand the Piratenpartei. The members of the German Pirate Party would happily go back to the things they were doing before. The party was founded as self-defense. Some members see it as a goal to make the Piratenpartei unnecessary. Not within the next 5 years, but maybe later.

soc88 14y ago

The fun thing is that “they are new” now lasts for almost 6 years. How long will we have to wait for the “long run” now, considering that exactly the same thing was said 6 years ago? :-)

forgetmyid 14y ago
Indeed. I also expect they will have the usual turbulence of a new political movement. Infighting, policy changes, etc and that all of that will be used to again dismiss the larger reason for their existence.
netrus 14y ago
They ride the "we are new" horse themselves, to explain their lack of expertise and knowledge in many pressing political issues. They are a new party, so people will look over some gaps, but this cannot last forever (maybe not even until the federal election next year).

NameNickHN 14y ago

This is one scientist's opinion and as we know there are as many opinions as there are scientists. Probably more. Roughly a generation after the Second Worldwar the Green Party was founded and there to stay. After another generation the Pirate Party movement comes to live. Seems to me that each generation is - at some point - fed up enough with their elders to band together against them.

stesch 14y ago

Journalists (and political scientist) don't quite understand the Piratenpartei. The members of the German Pirate Party would happily go back to the things they were doing before. The party was founded as self-defense. Some members see it as a goal to make the Piratenpartei unnecessary. Not within the next 5 years, but maybe later.