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Does anybody know the percentage of coders in these numbers? I doubt the job security/demand for a good programmer has changed at all.

by dilanj 18y ago

fallentimes 18y ago
I bet it has. No one is immune in a recession; quality, talented people get laid off of the time.
- axod 18y ago
  I'm betting there are some industries that are doing bumper business, and usually see a peak in a recession. For some industries/products, the recession is great news I'm sure.
  - fallentimes 18y ago
    There's always exceptions. Some law firms essentially specialize in suing companies during a recession. Short sellers and proprietary trading firms are also doing well especially if they longed volatility. The other 99% of the states (world?) is struggling.
patio11 18y ago
You could always work as a company employee (seishain) at a major Japanese company. They essentially can't fire you. You essentially can't quit. In times of economic uncertainty, this sort of arrangement holds a lot of appeal to people. Believe me though, oh boy, there are downsides to the expectation that worker and company are joined at the hip forever. A common opinion among my friends: "No matter how bad it is, above all, don't quit. If you quit, you'll never work for a decent company again. You'll be hakken shain (temp) for the rest of your life, condemned to perpetually poor conditions and ceaseless economic uncertainty. It would be like being American, except with worse pay. looks around Sorry, Patrick. When I said like an American, I didn't mean like you. But you're not American, anyhow, so its OK."
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retyred 18y ago
absolutely. i was a programmer at yahoo for almost thirteen years and was laid off. i'm not worried about finding work again, but since i have a nestegg i think i will sit things out for a year or so since job reqs will likely be featuring lower salaries. this makes sense, if i was a hiring employer in a valley of perpetually overextended, consumption obsessed workers, i wouldn't offer top dollar either. people will be taking what they can get to pay their bills.

Does anybody know the percentage of coders in these numbers? I doubt the job security/demand for a good programmer has changed at all.

by dilanj 18y ago

Does anybody know the percentage of coders in these numbers? I doubt the job security/demand for a good programmer has changed at all.

fallentimes 18y ago

I bet it has. No one is immune in a recession; quality, talented people get laid off of the time.

axod 18y ago
I'm betting there are some industries that are doing bumper business, and usually see a peak in a recession. For some industries/products, the recession is great news I'm sure.
- fallentimes 18y ago
  There's always exceptions. Some law firms essentially specialize in suing companies during a recession. Short sellers and proprietary trading firms are also doing well especially if they longed volatility. The other 99% of the states (world?) is struggling.

patio11 18y ago

You could always work as a company employee (seishain) at a major Japanese company. They essentially can't fire you. You essentially can't quit. In times of economic uncertainty, this sort of arrangement holds a lot of appeal to people. Believe me though, oh boy, there are downsides to the expectation that worker and company are joined at the hip forever. A common opinion among my friends: "No matter how bad it is, above all, don't quit. If you quit, you'll never work for a decent company again. You'll be hakken shain (temp) for the rest of your life, condemned to perpetually poor conditions and ceaseless economic uncertainty. It would be like being American, except with worse pay. looks around Sorry, Patrick. When I said like an American, I didn't mean like you. But you're not American, anyhow, so its OK."

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retyred 18y ago

absolutely. i was a programmer at yahoo for almost thirteen years and was laid off. i'm not worried about finding work again, but since i have a nestegg i think i will sit things out for a year or so since job reqs will likely be featuring lower salaries. this makes sense, if i was a hiring employer in a valley of perpetually overextended, consumption obsessed workers, i wouldn't offer top dollar either. people will be taking what they can get to pay their bills.