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Wow, this might be one of the worst PR decisions in recent history.

adolph 3y ago
Certainly it is the equivalent of a kid yelling "I can play my music as loud as I want to!" As I understand proposed legislation, it would apply to many websites and not be directed at TikTok or China specifically. I wonder if there is a larger strategic interest for China if the US enacts this type of law? Maybe the blowback is entirely expected and is the actual desired response?
- adolph 3y ago
  I was mistaken about the currently proposed legislation[0], which mentions ByteDance specifically and is broader to include any app from a "foreign adversary country" defined elsewere. It shall be unlawful for an entity to distribute, . . . a foreign adversary controlled application by . . .: [app store] or [internet hosting] [...] FOREIGN ADVERSARY COUNTRY.—The term “foreign adversary country” means a country specified in section 4872(d)(2) of title 10, United States Code. USC Title 10 section 4872(d)(2) defines the adversaries as N. Korea, China, Russia and Iran. [1] 0. https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7521/text?s=1&r=2 https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7521... 1. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/4872 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/4872
falcolas 3y ago
Except it's a lie. The modal did show up for some people, but it was closable via an 'X'.
- tivert 3y ago
  > Except it's a lie. The modal did show up for some people, but it was closable via an 'X'. Or was it a dark pattern? The calling and hanging up aspect seems to indicate a lot of people didn't understand how to close it without calling.
  - ThisIsMyAltAcct 3y ago
    This article shows what it looked like: https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/7/24093308/tiktok-congress-ban-push-notification https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/7/24093308/tiktok-congress-b...
    - crtasm 3y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39642376 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39642376

Certainly it is the equivalent of a kid yelling "I can play my music as loud as I want to!" As I understand proposed legislation, it would apply to many websites and not be directed at TikTok or China specifically. I wonder if there is a larger strategic interest for China if the US enacts this type of law? Maybe the blowback is entirely expected and is the actual desired response?

adolph 3y ago
I was mistaken about the currently proposed legislation[0], which mentions ByteDance specifically and is broader to include any app from a "foreign adversary country" defined elsewere. It shall be unlawful for an entity to distribute, . . . a foreign adversary controlled application by . . .: [app store] or [internet hosting] [...] FOREIGN ADVERSARY COUNTRY.—The term “foreign adversary country” means a country specified in section 4872(d)(2) of title 10, United States Code. USC Title 10 section 4872(d)(2) defines the adversaries as N. Korea, China, Russia and Iran. [1] 0. https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7521/text?s=1&r=2 https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7521... 1. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/4872 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/4872

falcolas 3y ago

Except it's a lie. The modal did show up for some people, but it was closable via an 'X'.

tivert 3y ago
> Except it's a lie. The modal did show up for some people, but it was closable via an 'X'. Or was it a dark pattern? The calling and hanging up aspect seems to indicate a lot of people didn't understand how to close it without calling.
- ThisIsMyAltAcct 3y ago
  This article shows what it looked like: https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/7/24093308/tiktok-congress-ban-push-notification https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/7/24093308/tiktok-congress-b...
  - crtasm 3y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39642376 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39642376