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I don't remember reading an exchange like this on HN ever. Either I wasn't paying attention enough or it's just demographic changing? I don't want to start an a

I don't remember reading an exchange like this on HN ever. Either I wasn't paying attention enough or it's just demographic changing? I don't want to start an argument with either of you but it's painful to see US literally being split in half, even when you watch a movie, you can reasonably guess which side the filmmaker is standing depending on the story, narrative, and perhaps the ending. Same for any other outlet that you can think of, including comments on HN, methinks.

qarl 3y ago
I don't like being insulted and respond in kind. Tit-for-tat is a very effective game theory strategy.
- edgyquant 3y ago
  No one insulted you, you used a meme as an excuse for a company that completely went against its founding principles and I called you out on it.
  - qarl 3y ago
    We're just going to have to agree to disagree, friend. You take care now.
edgyquant 3y ago
Well I’ve been here a few years longer than you and I can assure you topics like this always get this heated.
smoldesu 3y ago
The parent comment isn't entirely wrong, though. There are reasonable, safe and productive degrees of curiosity, and their are unreasonable, unsafe and antiproductive degrees too. AI itself is not worthless, the goal of advancing machine-learning and computer vision has long-since proved it's worth. Heralding LLMs as the burgeoning messiah of "AGI" (or worse yet, crowning OpenAI) is a bald-faced hype machine. This is not about space exploration or advancing some particular field of physics along a well-defined line of research. It's madness plus marketing, and there's no reasonable defense of their current valuation. At least Tesla has property worth something if they liquidate, OpenAI is worth nothing if they fail. Investing in their success is like playing at a roulette wheel you know is rigged.

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I don't remember reading an exchange like this on HN ever. Either I wasn't paying attention enough or it's just demographic changing? I don't want to start an a

by wseqyrku 3y ago

qarl 3y ago
I don't like being insulted and respond in kind. Tit-for-tat is a very effective game theory strategy.
- edgyquant 3y ago
  No one insulted you, you used a meme as an excuse for a company that completely went against its founding principles and I called you out on it.
  - qarl 3y ago
    We're just going to have to agree to disagree, friend. You take care now.
edgyquant 3y ago
Well I’ve been here a few years longer than you and I can assure you topics like this always get this heated.
smoldesu 3y ago
The parent comment isn't entirely wrong, though. There are reasonable, safe and productive degrees of curiosity, and their are unreasonable, unsafe and antiproductive degrees too. AI itself is not worthless, the goal of advancing machine-learning and computer vision has long-since proved it's worth. Heralding LLMs as the burgeoning messiah of "AGI" (or worse yet, crowning OpenAI) is a bald-faced hype machine. This is not about space exploration or advancing some particular field of physics along a well-defined line of research. It's madness plus marketing, and there's no reasonable defense of their current valuation. At least Tesla has property worth something if they liquidate, OpenAI is worth nothing if they fail. Investing in their success is like playing at a roulette wheel you know is rigged.