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Is this something easily avoided by eating more organic foods? Or is the prevalence of this make it unavoidable?

weweersdfsd 3y ago
Wikipedia claims that "Some states, including California, Hawaii, Maryland, New York, and Oregon, have banned chlorpyrifos on food grown and sold in their jurisdictions. Those bans remain in effect." It's also 100% banned in foods sold in EU area. So, not that hard to avoid depending on where you live. Apparently corn, soybeans, wheat, fruit trees are some of the most common crops it's used on.
- athrun 3y ago
  Apparently it’s still allowed in Australia for agricultural uses. That might change this year. https://www.apvma.gov.au/resources/chemicals-news/chlorpyrifos https://www.apvma.gov.au/resources/chemicals-news/chlorpyrif...
- lukas099 3y ago
  If it’s banned in all those places, does that have a knock-on effect of limiting its profitability thereby causing the market to produce less of it to sell elsewhere?
  - osivertsson 3y ago
    It still seems to be exported :( Europe shipping banned pesticide linked to child brain damage to Global South https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2023/03/28/eu-banned-pesticide-global-south/ https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2023/03/28/eu-banned-pestic...
- osivertsson 3y ago
  Do you got a source that chlorpyrifos is banned in foods sold in EU? A quick search seems to indicate that imported food can still have been grown with chlorpyrifos: https://www.eurofins.de/food-analysis/food-news/food-testing-news/ban-of-chlorpyrifos-and-chlorpyrifos-methyl https://www.eurofins.de/food-analysis/food-news/food-testing... Since we import a fair bit of vegetables and fruit during winter, we may still consume it here in the EU area. Also, Ascenza Agro and Industries Afrasa that sell chlorpyrifos based products recently tried to overturn this ban, but luckily were not able to: https://www.env-health.org/victory-for-health-european-general-court-upholds-ban-for-chlorpyrifos-methyl/ https://www.env-health.org/victory-for-health-european-gener...
  - LtdJorge 3y ago
    It is banned in the EU, "contaminated" goods tend to be caught by the Rapid Alert System for Food and Feed.
- cmrdporcupine 3y ago
  Looks like banned here in Canada, too. But only since December 2022. https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/publications/product-safety/end-registration-chlorpyrifos-pesticides.html https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/publications...
- droopyEyelids 3y ago
  Corn: It was often used to protect against rootworms and other pests. Soybeans: For controlling various insects such as aphids and beetles. Fruit trees: Including apples, oranges, and stone fruits to manage pests like codling moth and citrus thrips. Vegetables: Such as broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, and other leafy vegetables to combat caterpillars and other insect larvae. Almonds and nuts: To protect against a range of insect pests. Cotton: Used for bollworms, aphids, and other pests affecting cotton crops.
i_am_proteus 3y ago
It is not permitted for use on organic crops. One will certainly ingest less of this chemical by submitting to an all-organic diet.
ThrowawayTestr 3y ago
Just wash your produce
rsynnott 3y ago
The EU has proposed that it be added to the Stockholm Convention ban list, which would lead to it being banned almost everywhere on earth.
epgui 3y ago
This specific pesticide might not be used on organic crops, but plenty of other even-less-well-safety-tested "organic pesticides" may be used instead on organic crops. The word "organic" is largely a marketing gimmick. /biochemist,fwiw
- josefresco 3y ago
  While organic might currently be a "marketing gimmick" purchasing organic is an important signal to the market that consumers consider it important. I'll gladly be a first adopter if it helps move the industry and regulations in the right direction.
  - droopyEyelids 3y ago
    Organic isn't exactly a marketing gimmick. If you read the Organic Standards (linked on this page https://www.ams.usda.gov/services/organic-certification/organic-basics https://www.ams.usda.gov/services/organic-certification/orga...) you'll see it's an earnest attempt to deal with a really complicated subject.
- hammock 3y ago
  Such as?
- Lutger 3y ago
  That is only partially true, and mostly hyperbolic.
- biorach 3y ago
  I can't speak for the US, but in the EU this is not true
itomato 3y ago
Yes, as well as glyphosate and products and chemicals not in The National List of Allowed and Prohibited Substances: https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-7/subtitle-B/chapter-I/subchapter-M/part-205/subpart-G https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-7/subtitle-B/chapter-I/su...

Wikipedia claims that "Some states, including California, Hawaii, Maryland, New York, and Oregon, have banned chlorpyrifos on food grown and sold in their jurisdictions. Those bans remain in effect." It's also 100% banned in foods sold in EU area. So, not that hard to avoid depending on where you live. Apparently corn, soybeans, wheat, fruit trees are some of the most common crops it's used on.

athrun 3y ago
Apparently it’s still allowed in Australia for agricultural uses. That might change this year. https://www.apvma.gov.au/resources/chemicals-news/chlorpyrifos https://www.apvma.gov.au/resources/chemicals-news/chlorpyrif...
lukas099 3y ago
If it’s banned in all those places, does that have a knock-on effect of limiting its profitability thereby causing the market to produce less of it to sell elsewhere?
- osivertsson 3y ago
  It still seems to be exported :( Europe shipping banned pesticide linked to child brain damage to Global South https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2023/03/28/eu-banned-pesticide-global-south/ https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2023/03/28/eu-banned-pestic...
osivertsson 3y ago
Do you got a source that chlorpyrifos is banned in foods sold in EU? A quick search seems to indicate that imported food can still have been grown with chlorpyrifos: https://www.eurofins.de/food-analysis/food-news/food-testing-news/ban-of-chlorpyrifos-and-chlorpyrifos-methyl https://www.eurofins.de/food-analysis/food-news/food-testing... Since we import a fair bit of vegetables and fruit during winter, we may still consume it here in the EU area. Also, Ascenza Agro and Industries Afrasa that sell chlorpyrifos based products recently tried to overturn this ban, but luckily were not able to: https://www.env-health.org/victory-for-health-european-general-court-upholds-ban-for-chlorpyrifos-methyl/ https://www.env-health.org/victory-for-health-european-gener...
- LtdJorge 3y ago
  It is banned in the EU, "contaminated" goods tend to be caught by the Rapid Alert System for Food and Feed.
cmrdporcupine 3y ago
Looks like banned here in Canada, too. But only since December 2022. https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/publications/product-safety/end-registration-chlorpyrifos-pesticides.html https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/publications...
droopyEyelids 3y ago
Corn: It was often used to protect against rootworms and other pests. Soybeans: For controlling various insects such as aphids and beetles. Fruit trees: Including apples, oranges, and stone fruits to manage pests like codling moth and citrus thrips. Vegetables: Such as broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, and other leafy vegetables to combat caterpillars and other insect larvae. Almonds and nuts: To protect against a range of insect pests. Cotton: Used for bollworms, aphids, and other pests affecting cotton crops.

i_am_proteus 3y ago

It is not permitted for use on organic crops. One will certainly ingest less of this chemical by submitting to an all-organic diet.

ThrowawayTestr 3y ago

Just wash your produce

rsynnott 3y ago

The EU has proposed that it be added to the Stockholm Convention ban list, which would lead to it being banned almost everywhere on earth.

epgui 3y ago

This specific pesticide might not be used on organic crops, but plenty of other even-less-well-safety-tested "organic pesticides" may be used instead on organic crops. The word "organic" is largely a marketing gimmick. /biochemist,fwiw

josefresco 3y ago
While organic might currently be a "marketing gimmick" purchasing organic is an important signal to the market that consumers consider it important. I'll gladly be a first adopter if it helps move the industry and regulations in the right direction.
- droopyEyelids 3y ago
  Organic isn't exactly a marketing gimmick. If you read the Organic Standards (linked on this page https://www.ams.usda.gov/services/organic-certification/organic-basics https://www.ams.usda.gov/services/organic-certification/orga...) you'll see it's an earnest attempt to deal with a really complicated subject.
hammock 3y ago
Such as?
Lutger 3y ago
That is only partially true, and mostly hyperbolic.
biorach 3y ago
I can't speak for the US, but in the EU this is not true

itomato 3y ago

Yes, as well as glyphosate and products and chemicals not in The National List of Allowed and Prohibited Substances: https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-7/subtitle-B/chapter-I/subchapter-M/part-205/subpart-G https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-7/subtitle-B/chapter-I/su...