> Yes obviously it can be worked around by tens of thousands of people. We weren't discussing that. This is about the default which is clearly an insane default

> Yes obviously it can be worked around by tens of thousands of people. We weren't discussing that. This is about the default which is clearly an insane default in 2024. But what you're advocating isn't changing the default, it's changing the purpose of reset. If people want something to clear the scrollback buffer then a new standard, and thus tool too, should be implemented. And in fact there are other ways to clear the scrollback buffer. You're just insistent on complaining that one very specific tool which is intended for a whole other purpose also clears the scrollback buffer slightly quicker... > Rubbish. There are obviously other options: > * Don't upgrade their software (almost certainly the case already). That might not be an option. Some financial systems still use older style null terminals in places. > * Install a version of `reset` that has the delay. Given you're strongly against having to install a version of `reset` that doesn't have the delay, you're hardly in a position to demand other people to install a version that does. > * Add an option to `reset` to add the delay. That's not really practical on most systems because `reset` is just a symlink to `tset` > * Stop using a physical terminal. That's about as unhelpful a suggestion as it comes. > If you're ever wondering why it will never be the year of Linux on the desktop, it's because of attitudes like yours. Please don't make personal attacks. Plus waiting a couple of seconds for a command line terminal to clear when using one specific command has absolutely naff all to do with "the year of desktop Linux". If you bothered to do even the smallest amount of research on me, you'd realise that I'm massively in favour of modernising the command line. I've written a next generation shell that, frankly, leaves most others in the dust. And I'm not working on a terminal emulator that can in-line multimedia and other interactive GUI components. The problem here isn't my attitude, it's that the arguments in favour of changing `reset` are bullshit nonsense that both misunderstand the purpose of `reset` and also risk breaking a whole plethora of hardware because of that misunderstanding of yours.