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So the moose got stuck in the pulling ropes and strangled and crushed the dogs? Just reading the headline it sounded like the moose attacked, which sounded str

So the moose got stuck in the pulling ropes and strangled and crushed the dogs? Just reading the headline it sounded like the moose attacked, which sounded strange.

Modified3019 3y ago
Most likely it got tangled after attacking. Moose are well known for being heavily biased into the "fight" portion of fight/flight/freeze. They have horrible eyesight, so they are easy to "startle", resulting in a very sudden outbreak of ~500kg's of violence. A bunch of dogs and a sled speeding around is definitely a good way to provoke one.
- rightbyte 3y ago
  Are North American mooses more aggressive than European? I have never even heard rumors about rumors that someone or their dog got attacked by moose.
  - adastra22 3y ago
    In fact European moose are more aggressive, if wikipedia is to be believed.
  - Modified3019 3y ago
    Honestly, it had not occurred to me that Europe even had moose species. I can't think of a time I've ever seen one in europeon media (not that I'm exposed to that much of it). I grew up in michigan, having done various camping trips there and in canada. Large animal related safety was impressed on us, and moose attacks do appear in the news. But yes, if you see a moose, stay the hell away. If you see a calf, get the hell away faster (before mom finds you). To be clear, while I wouldn't call them docile, moose aren't really stalking around for fresh victims. But there are things which can instantly set them off and it's best not to roll those dice if you can avoid it because they straight up aren't afraid of you. https://coloradooutdoorsmag.com/2018/10/15/moose-attacks/ https://coloradooutdoorsmag.com/2018/10/15/moose-attacks/ https://www.wildlifexteam.com/about/blog/moose-attacks-more-dangerous-than-bear-attacks-how-to-protect-yourself.html https://www.wildlifexteam.com/about/blog/moose-attacks-more-... Reading the above, it seems they do have a special hatred of dogs though. It's possible you may be mixing them up with elk, which do have a healthy fear of people and dogs, and would certainly make me question my ears if I heard that one had attacked a bobsled.
    - porbelm 3y ago
      Yeah stay away from moose, they are friendly enough when lying down drunk on fermented apples in the yard, but if you come between a mom and a calf when walking in the forest you may be in a world of pain. Yes, they do attack dogs that become a nuisance. Source: The huge beasts that live in our neighbourhood forest in southeastern Norway
    - ta1243 3y ago
      It's 1971, a Swedish man crashes into a tree, what causes the accident? There's nothing medical, nothing wrong with the car. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-fCBcgDq4Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-fCBcgDq4Y
    - 0x38B 3y ago
      Growing up we had a dog, and once our dog went after a big moose in the yard. The moose turned and tore after our dog, who stumbled or fell over himself in terror - the moose was running so fast that it jumped over our dog, who was unharmed (physically, at least). I’ve lived around moose most of my life and don’t mind getting close, but you have to read their body language.
  - ruined 3y ago
    you wouldn't expect it, but moose are the most dangerous wild mammal in north america
    - scns 3y ago
      Only topped by Hippos!
      - lupusreal 3y ago
        [I hope] all the North America hippos are locked up in zoos though.
        duskwuff 3y ago
        In North America, I believe so. South America is another matter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippopotamuses_in_Colombia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippopotamuses_in_Colombia
    - ta1243 3y ago
      Second most.
  - rufus_foreman 3y ago
    >> Are North American mooses more aggressive than European? The plural of moose is meese, similar to goose -> geese.
    - kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 3y ago
      Moosen
vdo 3y ago
It’s not unheard of, though not common. There was an incident a couple years ago where a musher, not during the Iditarod iirc, had to shoot a moose. She could not down it despite emptying her gun into it. She managed to cut some of her dogs loose, but the rest were basically hostages. It’s horrific what can happen! That moose stayed close by and attacked off and on for an extended time before she could get help. (Source: https://m.facebook.com/koahteam/posts/this-has-been-the-most-horrific-past-24-hours-of-my-life-i-am-overwhelmed-with-t/446026073872495/ https://m.facebook.com/koahteam/posts/this-has-been-the-most... ). I’m glad Seavey was able to dispatch this one without further harm. As a sort of PSA: moose are frankly more likely to attack if you have a dog. It’s honestly a risk factor for being attacked by a moose here in Alaska for much of the year (besides the presence of calves, of course). They have strong instincts against anything reading like a wolf. Moreover, they are more likely to opt for fight over flight when in deeper snow because it is tiring to traverse and they won’t be able to run as well. They’re exhausted, grumpy, desperate.
- mordechai9000 3y ago
  Many have probably been hassled by all the unleashed dogs running around. Then they see a human with a dog and think you're coming back for more, so it sets them off.
takinola 3y ago
I met a guy whose dogs had been killed by a moose during the Iditarod. My understanding is you generally give them a wide berth if possible as they can be very dangerous.

So the moose got stuck in the pulling ropes and strangled and crushed the dogs? Just reading the headline it sounded like the moose attacked, which sounded strange.

Modified3019 3y ago

Most likely it got tangled after attacking. Moose are well known for being heavily biased into the "fight" portion of fight/flight/freeze. They have horrible eyesight, so they are easy to "startle", resulting in a very sudden outbreak of ~500kg's of violence. A bunch of dogs and a sled speeding around is definitely a good way to provoke one.

rightbyte 3y ago
Are North American mooses more aggressive than European? I have never even heard rumors about rumors that someone or their dog got attacked by moose.
- adastra22 3y ago
  In fact European moose are more aggressive, if wikipedia is to be believed.
- Modified3019 3y ago
  Honestly, it had not occurred to me that Europe even had moose species. I can't think of a time I've ever seen one in europeon media (not that I'm exposed to that much of it). I grew up in michigan, having done various camping trips there and in canada. Large animal related safety was impressed on us, and moose attacks do appear in the news. But yes, if you see a moose, stay the hell away. If you see a calf, get the hell away faster (before mom finds you). To be clear, while I wouldn't call them docile, moose aren't really stalking around for fresh victims. But there are things which can instantly set them off and it's best not to roll those dice if you can avoid it because they straight up aren't afraid of you. https://coloradooutdoorsmag.com/2018/10/15/moose-attacks/ https://coloradooutdoorsmag.com/2018/10/15/moose-attacks/ https://www.wildlifexteam.com/about/blog/moose-attacks-more-dangerous-than-bear-attacks-how-to-protect-yourself.html https://www.wildlifexteam.com/about/blog/moose-attacks-more-... Reading the above, it seems they do have a special hatred of dogs though. It's possible you may be mixing them up with elk, which do have a healthy fear of people and dogs, and would certainly make me question my ears if I heard that one had attacked a bobsled.
  - porbelm 3y ago
    Yeah stay away from moose, they are friendly enough when lying down drunk on fermented apples in the yard, but if you come between a mom and a calf when walking in the forest you may be in a world of pain. Yes, they do attack dogs that become a nuisance. Source: The huge beasts that live in our neighbourhood forest in southeastern Norway
  - ta1243 3y ago
    It's 1971, a Swedish man crashes into a tree, what causes the accident? There's nothing medical, nothing wrong with the car. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-fCBcgDq4Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-fCBcgDq4Y
  - 0x38B 3y ago
    Growing up we had a dog, and once our dog went after a big moose in the yard. The moose turned and tore after our dog, who stumbled or fell over himself in terror - the moose was running so fast that it jumped over our dog, who was unharmed (physically, at least). I’ve lived around moose most of my life and don’t mind getting close, but you have to read their body language.
- ruined 3y ago
  you wouldn't expect it, but moose are the most dangerous wild mammal in north america
  - scns 3y ago
    Only topped by Hippos!
    - lupusreal 3y ago
      [I hope] all the North America hippos are locked up in zoos though.
      - duskwuff 3y ago
        In North America, I believe so. South America is another matter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippopotamuses_in_Colombia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippopotamuses_in_Colombia
  - ta1243 3y ago
    Second most.
- rufus_foreman 3y ago
  >> Are North American mooses more aggressive than European? The plural of moose is meese, similar to goose -> geese.
  - kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 3y ago
    Moosen

vdo 3y ago

It’s not unheard of, though not common. There was an incident a couple years ago where a musher, not during the Iditarod iirc, had to shoot a moose. She could not down it despite emptying her gun into it. She managed to cut some of her dogs loose, but the rest were basically hostages. It’s horrific what can happen! That moose stayed close by and attacked off and on for an extended time before she could get help. (Source: https://m.facebook.com/koahteam/posts/this-has-been-the-most-horrific-past-24-hours-of-my-life-i-am-overwhelmed-with-t/446026073872495/ https://m.facebook.com/koahteam/posts/this-has-been-the-most... ). I’m glad Seavey was able to dispatch this one without further harm. As a sort of PSA: moose are frankly more likely to attack if you have a dog. It’s honestly a risk factor for being attacked by a moose here in Alaska for much of the year (besides the presence of calves, of course). They have strong instincts against anything reading like a wolf. Moreover, they are more likely to opt for fight over flight when in deeper snow because it is tiring to traverse and they won’t be able to run as well. They’re exhausted, grumpy, desperate.

mordechai9000 3y ago
Many have probably been hassled by all the unleashed dogs running around. Then they see a human with a dog and think you're coming back for more, so it sets them off.

takinola 3y ago

I met a guy whose dogs had been killed by a moose during the Iditarod. My understanding is you generally give them a wide berth if possible as they can be very dangerous.