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> "it is usually encombant on the researcher to buy thier RAs, course releases, summer salary" Honestly, this is a sick system. Hire a faculty member and then

> "it is usually encombant on the researcher to buy thier RAs, course releases, summer salary" Honestly, this is a sick system. Hire a faculty member and then expect them to hire someone to perform one of their fundamental duties: teaching. It seems to me that the basic model needs to change. Hire faculty for what you want them to do. Want an instructor? Hire an instructor. Want a researcher, hire a researcher. Provide both with what they need, whether that is RAs, TAs, funding, lab space, or whatever.

mynameisnoone 3y ago
Yes. It's like don't expect an engineering manager to code and manage. Have a department with world-class lecturers and researchers, and let it be okay that they are often different people. For example, take the UC Davis computer science department: they had Sean Davis, a paragon of CS lecturers. Also Prof. Farrens with his infamous Monty Python-laden finals. On the research side, they also had bridge champion "Chip" Martel, Norman Matloff (h of 22), and Matt Bishop. Dan Gusfield was a rarity: both a good lecturer and a good researcher. Division of labor, and specialization of trade is a "good" value that shouldn't be ignored.
derbOac 3y ago
I always think it's like hiring a plumber to make money for you rather than actually replace your leaky pipe. At some point if everyone does that homeowners are making a lot of money but everyone has corroding plumbing.
uberman 3y ago
They do this already. Adjuncts are teaching faculty. Tenure usually comes with a research expectation and faculty in the tenure system typically have a reduced course load. If a research active faculty member wants to teach even less, then they use grant money to buy themselves releases. Typically even research faculty are expected to teach at least one course as are leadership faculty like deans. Though obviously the provost and president are unlikely to teach but rather raise a shit ton of philanthropy. For context, I have work and consulted for more than a decade at R1 universities that you have heard of.

mynameisnoone 3y ago

Yes. It's like don't expect an engineering manager to code and manage. Have a department with world-class lecturers and researchers, and let it be okay that they are often different people. For example, take the UC Davis computer science department: they had Sean Davis, a paragon of CS lecturers. Also Prof. Farrens with his infamous Monty Python-laden finals. On the research side, they also had bridge champion "Chip" Martel, Norman Matloff (h of 22), and Matt Bishop. Dan Gusfield was a rarity: both a good lecturer and a good researcher. Division of labor, and specialization of trade is a "good" value that shouldn't be ignored.

derbOac 3y ago

I always think it's like hiring a plumber to make money for you rather than actually replace your leaky pipe. At some point if everyone does that homeowners are making a lot of money but everyone has corroding plumbing.

uberman 3y ago

They do this already. Adjuncts are teaching faculty. Tenure usually comes with a research expectation and faculty in the tenure system typically have a reduced course load. If a research active faculty member wants to teach even less, then they use grant money to buy themselves releases. Typically even research faculty are expected to teach at least one course as are leadership faculty like deans. Though obviously the provost and president are unlikely to teach but rather raise a shit ton of philanthropy. For context, I have work and consulted for more than a decade at R1 universities that you have heard of.