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> As much as I am a dude who loves his work, Dragon Ball is male centric So? Are you implying that this makes it less important? Barbie is female centric, and

> As much as I am a dude who loves his work, Dragon Ball is male centric So? Are you implying that this makes it less important? Barbie is female centric, and there's nothing wrong with that either. Gender doesn't matter in this context. Gender has blown up as this big divisive, team sports thing recently, and honestly it's starting to become annoying and hurtful. It's okay for something to cater to a predominantly male or female audience. There's nothing wrong with that, and there never has been. There's nothing here to be offended about.

alephnan 3y ago
> So? Are you implying that this makes it less important? OP claimed Dragon Ball is universal and transcendent. I'm merely nitpicking that it is not. Same as I would with barbie. > there's nothing wrong with that either. Didn't say there was. > Gender doesn't matter in this context. Well it is relevant because you just admitted Barbie is female centric. > Gender has blown up as this big divisive, team sports thing recently, and honestly it's starting to become annoying and hurtful Yes, and that's why I asked what is the response to my comment. > It's okay for something to cater to a predominantly male or female audience. Yes, I agree. That's why I pointed out that different manga genres exist. And no one refuted this point. > There's nothing wrong with that, and there never has been. I agree. > There's nothing here to be offended about. Exactly. I wasn't making any criticism nor was I offended about it. I was tunnel visioned on the philosophical point of something being universal and transcendent. It's everyone else who had a knee jerk reaction to my comment being some kind of gender criticism
- Jensson 3y ago
  > OP claimed Dragon Ball is universal and transcendent No he wrote: > Dragon Ball transcends cultures, languages, and generations like few creative works I can think of do. Nowhere did he say it is universal or that it transcends gender in anyway. You are arguing against nothing here.

alephnan 3y ago

> So? Are you implying that this makes it less important? OP claimed Dragon Ball is universal and transcendent. I'm merely nitpicking that it is not. Same as I would with barbie. > there's nothing wrong with that either. Didn't say there was. > Gender doesn't matter in this context. Well it is relevant because you just admitted Barbie is female centric. > Gender has blown up as this big divisive, team sports thing recently, and honestly it's starting to become annoying and hurtful Yes, and that's why I asked what is the response to my comment. > It's okay for something to cater to a predominantly male or female audience. Yes, I agree. That's why I pointed out that different manga genres exist. And no one refuted this point. > There's nothing wrong with that, and there never has been. I agree. > There's nothing here to be offended about. Exactly. I wasn't making any criticism nor was I offended about it. I was tunnel visioned on the philosophical point of something being universal and transcendent. It's everyone else who had a knee jerk reaction to my comment being some kind of gender criticism

Jensson 3y ago
> OP claimed Dragon Ball is universal and transcendent No he wrote: > Dragon Ball transcends cultures, languages, and generations like few creative works I can think of do. Nowhere did he say it is universal or that it transcends gender in anyway. You are arguing against nothing here.