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Could Apple Leave Europe?
- TheLoafOfBread 3y agoIt could happen. But if Apple leaves Europe, there will be suddenly lot of developers, who will have no motivation anymore to release anything for Apple and all applications will be suddenly for Android only. Do you want to use our product? Well buy some Android phone instead of your toy phone. Does not look good in a long term.
- theGeatZhopa 3y agoNo they can't, because this is against the shareholder value. Everything must be decided for the shareholder and in favor of the shareholder. If they leave, they'll bring big damage to the shareholder. Not only tim Cook can run very very very fast, then...
- mike_hearn 3y agoLeaving big markets has been done quite a few times. Most obviously when Google left the Chinese search market in 2010, something that conventional wisdom at the time said could never happen due to the sheer size of the market.
- davibu 3y agoLies.. European market is the second biggest one, accounting for 25% the company's revenue in 2023. https://www.businessofapps.com/data/apple-statistics/ https://www.businessofapps.com/data/apple-statistics/
- pjmlp 3y agoFor me they can happily leave if they feel like it. We would get back to the 1980 - 2000's period, where Apple hardware on Europe was mostly seen on computer magazines, while we played with Atari, Amiga, Archimedes, PC, MSX, ZX Spectrum and C64. Business opportunity for Sailfish, and others.
- olliej 3y agoYou mean the period of MS only? That’s your dream point?
- pjmlp 3y agoYou apparently have English reading compreehension problems, I made quite clear what systems were available.
- olliej 3y agoThe examples you gave were all 80s systems, even in back waters like NZ :D By the end of the 80s even the big non-MS players were largely irrelevant, and the entirety of the second half the 1980-2000 was MS. If you're talking about hobbyist/minor OS's, those are more available today than any time previously, depending on your definitions I'd argue hobbyist hardware is more available as well. I'm not sure how Apple existing or not in the EU impacts that availability, but I haven't lived in the EU in almost 30 years and where I did live while there decided not to be there either, only for stupid reasons rather than visa limits :D
- pjmlp 3y agoNo they weren't, Archimedes, Amiga and Ataris did survive in Europe until late 1990's, as any Computer Shopper magazine issue will prove. The demoscene and retrogaming scene in Europe proves how relevant those systems keep being even in 2024.
- sydbarrett74 3y agoIncreased competition? Less monoculture? Yes, please!
- tmottabr 3y agoless monoculture how?? today you have two competing phone OS, that is not a monoculture. If Apple leave EU then there will be only Android.. It will be a monoculture then.. Also you do not increase competition by having less people competing.
- znpy 3y ago> If Apple leave EU then there will be only Android.. It will be a monoculture then.. That would actually be great, because in that case the EU would have ground to impose Google to sell off the Android division (because it'd be a monopoly).
- sydbarrett74 3y agoIf Google becomes a de facto monopolist, then the EU is more likely to restrict its market power further, up to and including divestiture.