> Do we really want to emulated the Chinese state in regards to freedom of speech? We definitely want to emulate the Chinese state in it's clear-eyed pursuit

> Do we really want to emulated the Chinese state in regards to freedom of speech? We definitely want to emulate the Chinese state in it's clear-eyed pursuit of its own interests and its protection of its political system from interference by its adversaries. Don't be a fool. I read an article just today that showed where your kind of idealism leads. The Chinese state subsidized and supported Chinese solar panel manufacturers, the EU subsidized the purchase of solar panels from any manufacturer, and the end result is the European solar industry was totally destroyed.