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The native NACS port is nice. I think after NACS fully opens up this year and dealers start shipping cars with the port we will see higher adoption rates for EV

The native NACS port is nice. I think after NACS fully opens up this year and dealers start shipping cars with the port we will see higher adoption rates for EV in the States. Someone needs to come out with a vehicle that is actually affordable for the masses before it really takes off though. $45k is a decent step in that direction at least. As long as it’s not like Tesla who basically lies about cheapest trim to make headlines and then makes it near impossible to get the cheapest trim.

bryanlarsen 3y ago
Which is ironic, because today Tesla (and the other no-dealer brands) are the only ones where it is easy to order the base model; you just order it off the website like any other trim. OTOH trying to get a base model from a dealer is basically impossible. But at one time you were right -- Tesla had a Model 3 base model that you had to phone to order. They don't anymore. But play stupid tricks, and people remember even once you stop doing them.
- SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
  I was more referring to Tesla’s practice of announcing a cheap model at a pretty competitive price A (eg Model 3) and saying that it will be available at X day, but come to find out only the expensive trims are available on X day and competitive price A is only available months or years down the line from the original announced date
  - bryanlarsen 3y ago
    That's pretty standard practice for all brands, at least for EV's. Try buying GM's $35,000 Equinox EV, for example, or Ford's $40,000 Lightning.
    - SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
      Sucks that “other companies also do shady thing, Tesla is not special” is the response here. Definitely a good case for better consumer protections around advertisement
ManuelKiessling 3y ago
The MG 2 that was announced recently sounds promising wrt pricing for an actual mass market: £ 16,000 / 20,000 €.

bryanlarsen 3y ago

Which is ironic, because today Tesla (and the other no-dealer brands) are the only ones where it is easy to order the base model; you just order it off the website like any other trim. OTOH trying to get a base model from a dealer is basically impossible. But at one time you were right -- Tesla had a Model 3 base model that you had to phone to order. They don't anymore. But play stupid tricks, and people remember even once you stop doing them.

SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
I was more referring to Tesla’s practice of announcing a cheap model at a pretty competitive price A (eg Model 3) and saying that it will be available at X day, but come to find out only the expensive trims are available on X day and competitive price A is only available months or years down the line from the original announced date
- bryanlarsen 3y ago
  That's pretty standard practice for all brands, at least for EV's. Try buying GM's $35,000 Equinox EV, for example, or Ford's $40,000 Lightning.
  - SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
    Sucks that “other companies also do shady thing, Tesla is not special” is the response here. Definitely a good case for better consumer protections around advertisement

ManuelKiessling 3y ago

The MG 2 that was announced recently sounds promising wrt pricing for an actual mass market: £ 16,000 / 20,000 €.